Dhs set to make it easier to deport undocumented immigrants - Page 2

I do not think that it directly caused it, but I do believe that it played a role in having all those kids come. Yes, the dates do not match up, but I think that the parents of those children wanted to send them and hope that something could be resolved for them, knowing that Obama just helped the Dreamers out.

The quoted link LITERALLY proves that DACA had no role in unaccompanied minor surge. But you're still insisting on it did play a role. Wow.

Are you still mad that I, along with another user, pointed out that you were spreading false information in one of the threads, which is why you are replying to this to get back at me? And I was not insisting, that would have required for me to continuously post about it, which I have not since I have posted once on this topic.

Yea, and go look at the one that politico put out, and you will see that they agree with me. It is not the main reason, but it is still a very small reason. I am sure it made it an easier decision for parents that were 50/50, on sending their kids here, to say, "well let us give it a shot and hope that the president creates something for him/her to stay." 95% of the reason for the parents sending them here was due to their financial situation, bad living conditions and bad country etc., while less than 5% of the reason involved hoping that an executive order would be made for these children.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact...reated-crisis/

I know it did have an effect on the 2013 gang of eight immigration bill.

DACA did play a part, but not that directly. Under the 'deporter in Chief' , if you were an minor, they would process you and send you on to a person in the country illegally. The kid would get a court date for two years in the future.

In the mean time, they could stay, go to school and receive health care. I could take six years for the asylum case to be denied. By then , they are part of the community.

There was a 'permiso', in that asylum cases took so long. The change now is that the guardian must be in the US legally. If they were in the US legally then they would have had a lot more options.

Kind of true. Perception becomes reality and they were in fact being used as the reason why DACA was a mistake by anti-immigrant people.

Even if you look at it objectively, Permiso Kids (tm) continued to come after DACA and surpassed pre-DACA levels and shot up even more so in 2014 when there was talk of eDACA and DAPA. Would that have happened if there was no DACA? I doubt it. It's human nature to see something and want to get in on it before it goes away, even if it might ruin it for those it was intended to help in the first place.

We can't blame those people for wanting a better life for their children. It's the reason we are here too.

I've been following this closely in the news.

The Department of Homeland Security clearly does not give a fuck about human decency in the least bit. While I can understand some of the regulations and new rules they are calling for, the majority are going to have detrimental effects within communities as well as the economy in general.

Some articles are saying the new immigration guidelines easily target around 8 million undocumented immigrants. You can't just deport 8 mil undocumented immigrants and not replace them immediately when it comes to the economy.

That would trigger a massive negative chain reaction through the entire country, and i'm really at a loss as to how the administration doesn't realize this.

What's funny about this is that Trump is using the economy for the most part as leverage to say that illegal immigration is having devastating effects, even though Obama left it in pretty good shape for him.

Trump claims to have inherited a mess, even though it was really Obama who hopped on the Titanic as it was sinking and prevented another fucking Great Depression.

I understand your frustrations but don't listen to the news. They are over exaggerating.

It does not matter what the position is about deportations. It is simply not feasible to deport more than a couple hundred thousand people even with the current guidelines.

The ineptitude of government works against them.

My prediction is that they will at most be able to deport no more than 20% more folks than Obama.

Assuming Congress remains gridlocked and no significant funding gets increased.

On top of that, a lot of the funding would go to the genius idea of the wall.

In fact, the wall focus will deter funds for interior enforcement.

Will many innocent people get now caught as supposed to just convicted criminals, yes. But we must remain weary of the fear mongering from the media and the far left organization.

I won't scapegoat children escaping poverty and violence. All of us came or stayed here because it was better for our lives. Blaming refugees is out of line.