DREAMer: Trump is still trash on immigration - Page 2

He won't, the man wouldn't know an Olive Branch if it bit him in the ass. It's all what the Kochs and other fiends want, we're a wedge issue, something to tease the nazis with come elections, together with abortions, and religions, and a whole other lot of nonsense.

Look at Washington, Donny can throw some catch phrases but he's a useful idiot with an (R) next to his name that will sign whatever smut Mitch McConnell puts in front of him.

So we go from talking about DACA and immigration to talking about Medicaid, and abortion.

Trump ain't perfect, but if we are going to attack him on something let's do it on what this forum is about.

Nobody attacked Obama in this forum for using air drones to kill innocent civilians.

Innocent kids grow up into enemy combatants. What you think that if your beloved WW2 lasted a decade longer 8 year old Hans wouldn't be handed a Gewehr and get sent to reinforce the Eastern Front? Do you think that 2 year old Muhammad isn't going to be handed an AK the moment recoil doesn't knock him over? Yes, it's an ugly world over there, and really - it's not our fault and not our problem. You want to weep about some kid getting burned to crisp by an AGM I'm sure there's a better forum for that.

There was plenty of critique of Obama here on his inaction on immigration, say what you will but we are a single-issue site. Same as gun forums circlejerking around new ways around the National Firearms Act and getting pissed about someone getting 10 years in Federal Prison for violating it. Same as a site about keeping guinea pigs being excited about the smelly rodents for whatever reasons.


So going back to Trump, let me tell you what his handlers want and what might happen under him:
1) DACA isn't a priority, it's easier to keep it up and all so nativists can remain pissed and vote republican for whatever sense that makes. When it's time to bring the hammer down he'll have a lot of information on us. So if you, or any other of you have a plan to legalize it's time to put it in motion, if not then better have a safe house for when they start rounding people up.
2) Trump tried 2 travel bans which the courts struck down before they could do any kind of damage, there were green card holders being denied entry. There were Iraqi translators working for the US Army (EB-4) being denied entry during the few days before the injunction.
3) Wall - 10 year old's solution to a complex problem, well they can't come if there's a barrier, not like ladders or ropes or grappling hooks exist. Never mind most illegal immigrants are overstays and not EWIs. But hey, simpleton calling call for the simpleton voting populace.
4) Look at what the republican congress is considering and wanting to bring up to a vote. Whoever circlejerks around RACA being great and having like 3 cosponsors needs to stop drinking the fucking coolaid and look at what "immigration" bills they are scheduling for votes - just so you know, enforcement only that makes IIRAIRA, with its bars and inadmissibilities for fucking everything, look acceptable.

Nice opinion

I only brought up Medicaid as an example/reason of why Democrats and Immigration advocates would not be willing to work with Trump.

So...how is this news?

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Trust me there was a lot of obama criticism

So much Stockholm syndrome on here. Just a couple of years ago, a bunch of people here were trashing Obama saying that DACA didn't do enough and he should give them green cards even though Obama took a huge risk doing that and had always supported immigration reform.

Now we have Trump who has trashed immigrants every chance he got and he said he was going to get rid of DACA, but since he decided not to undo Obama's hard work, we should sing his praises? All of a sudden we should kiss his butt that he's only deporting those other people and not us?

Then, we should all start to attack and call him a bloody asshole/racist. While we are it, let us all hope he eliminates DACA because benefiting from any program under his administration goes against our ethics as dreamers etc. Hell, we should all start a petition to have him cancel daca, so we are in no way connected to him.

"All of a sudden we should kiss his butt that he's only deporting those other people and not us?" What you forget is that many innocent immigrants were deported under Obama while he protected us, which he explains he later tried to help more with eDACA and DAPA. We would continually confront Obama on these deportations, and he would essentially give the same reasoning every republican gives us. As the President, he has a constitutional duty to uphold the laws of this country.

DOUBLE STANDARDS. We should not be cautious or strategic because Trump is a racist and a bloody asshole. We should stop receiving any sort of benefit or deportation protections from this administration to protest his presidency and the fact that we dislike him as a president and person. Our ego matters more than being strategic, advancing our dreams, and helping put food on the table for our families, many of which rely on us for income now given that finding work is more difficult.

I do not mind dreamers dissenting and criticizing his policies in a civil way. That's fair. After all, we do live in a democracy. However, blindly engaging in ad hominem arguments that are based along Democratic partisan lines is irresponsible and puts all of us at risk. Another reminder, we live in a Democracy; the dreamers who want to praise the fact that he has not eliminated daca are not any less of dreamers than the ones who attack him and feel that they are better than the dreamers who disagree with their strategy.

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