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Kate's Law' battle shifts to the Senate, testing Dems

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07-03-2017, 08:00 PM
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But Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.), who is also up for reelection, downplayed the chances that Democrats would help pass the bill as long as Republicans are unwilling to discuss broader immigration reforms.

“Democrats are not going to stand for harsh anti-immigration measures, we're not,” he said. “If they're not willing to meaningfully dialogue with us about immigration reform, you're not going to see us embracing their super-partisan anti-immigration bill.”

http://thehill.com/latino/340576-imm...e-testing-dems

Will democrats and republicans be willing to add some sort of legislation benefiting dreamers?
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07-03-2017, 08:47 PM
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Attach RACA to that shit and pass it. Nuff said!!
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Good move Senator Kaine.
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Democrats have to compromise on something with GOP , in order to get GOP 'S support to pass legislative solution for us .
If they don't , still acting like what they have been doing in past 20 yrs, we will be screwed!
Let's see if Democrats really care about us .they have to be smart , amnesty for all undocumented is impossible . They got to know that by now
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Nobody will act on any type of solution for us until after daca is rescinded by the courts. After the injunction when people start expiring and getting fired you'll see republicans and Dems come together to avoid the bad pr.
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Nobody will act on any type of solution for us until after daca is rescinded by the courts. After the injunction when people start expiring and getting fired you'll see republicans and Dems come together to avoid the bad pr.
How are you so sure DACA will be rescinded by the court? If our supporters sue to have it reinstated if Hanen does block it , I don't see why an injunction would hold up in other courts. It's been active for 5 years, so my hope is they keep it going till at least it gets to the Supreme Court.
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How are you so sure DACA will be rescinded by the court? If our supporters sue to have it reinstated if Hanen does block it , I don't see why an injunction would hold up in other courts. It's been active for 5 years, so my hope is they keep it going till at least it gets to the Supreme Court.
Because in order for other courts to take the case, the Trump (i.e. Sessions) administration would have to fight for it in the courts.

Do you REALLY think Sessions is gonna order the Justice Department to fight for DACA? The most anti-immigration inbred fuck in the entire senate for the last two decades or so? The one who filibustered the DA in 2010 almost single-handily killing it? I do not see it happening.

Our best shot is that someone talks some sense into these AGs and advise them not to pick a fight with their own party.
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Because in order for other courts to take the case, the Trump (i.e. Sessions) administration would have to fight for it in the courts.

Do you REALLY think Sessions is gonna order the Justice Department to fight for DACA? The most anti-immigration inbred fuck in the entire senate for the last two decades or so? The one who filibustered the DA in 2010 almost single-handily killing it? I do not see it happening.

Our best shot is that someone talks some sense into these AGs and advise them not to pick a fight with their own party.
Look if these states can sue, then groups like the ACLU and democratic governors etc can sue on our behalf as well. At the end of the day , it's up to Trump to decide if he wants to defend it or not. Sessions would probably recuse himself if it comes to that .
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Look if these states can sue, then groups like the ACLU and democratic governors etc can sue on our behalf as well. At the end of the day , it's up to Trump to decide if he wants to defend it or not. Sessions would probably recuse himself if it comes to that .
Can you tell me on what grounds would the ACLU and Governors sue? You can't sue to force the executive branch to keep a policy started by the executive branch. They also can't defend a policy that they didn't implement.
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Can you tell me on what grounds would the ACLU and Governors sue? You can't sue to force the executive branch to keep a policy started by the executive branch. They also can't defend a policy that they didn't implement.
Same reason the governors sued for dapa. It would cause economic harm to their states to remove that many people from the work force.
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