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Congress was preparing for some immigration skirmishes. Trump wants a battle royal. - Page 2

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All the members of congress that have a stake in this need to read this article and find out who's who and what everyone wants! This really shouldn't be harder than it looks. The only thing missing is a capable intermediary that can get all these factions in one room and iron out a deal.
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Any deal that benefits DREAMers seems unlikely at this point. NumbersUSA is already lobbying against a wall/DREAM Act compromise.
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All anti immigrant factions are. Breibart is pushing 4 DACA articles a day.
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I'm down for that. Better than your plan of giving everything up to Trump without him offering the Dream Act for it. He's offered nothing and you guys are already selling out not just yourselves but your parents.
Lmfao What in thee hell are you and libertarian talking about? I have never said gim him all he wants without us getting anything.

I have continually alluded to a compromise, which entails border security measures in exchange for dreamer relief.
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in a sense this guy is right.

we are already giving up our position of leverage when we agree to everything the opposition is offering, despite the fact the executive branch has not even offered any relief for us but just rather in rhetoric of having "heart."

bad negotiating guys, don't be like got_daca.
Dude...what the fuck are you talking about? That I recall, the ones pushing for a compromise are demanding a dream act in exchange for some of the things he wants.

He doesnt have to offer it. That's why we have brains and mouths to speak up and demand dreamer relief. In exchange for what he wants. It's not science.
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Any deal that benefits DREAMers seems unlikely at this point. NumbersUSA is already lobbying against a wall/DREAM Act compromise.
Let the status quo continue then! More brown people in America
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thats fine, but did the administration come out and publicly say they are willing to support a path to legalization for the beneficiaries of the DACA program? best we got is we will be dealt with "heart."

once they do then we can come at the table and start a dialogue but until then we will just have to wait and see.

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Dude...what the fuck are you talking about? That I recall, the ones pushing for a compromise are demanding a dream act i exchange for some of the things he wants.

He doesnt have to offer it. That's why we have brains and mouths to speak up and demand dreamer relief. In exchange for what he wants. It's not science.
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thats fine, but did the administration come out and publicly say they are willing to support a path to legalization for the beneficiaries of the DACA program? best we got is we will be dealt with "heart."

we will just have to wait and see.
Not yet, but my point is and has been for the last few days is that Denocrars are missing a golden opportunity to help us by refusing to use us as a bargaining chip.

They will demand their shit, and we will make our demands. Wtf are we? Mimes? It's our job to demand then try to meet a middle ground.
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It's not like any of those groups like Breitbart or numbers USA were ever gonna agree to any kind of deal anyway. That doesn't mean more now than it ever has.
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WH will not explicitly state what offers they want to make. If they did, the democrats snatch up PR opportunity and paint 45 as a monster. That's why we're seeing all these articles about the deals. Aides are purposely leaking it so the other side can get an idea of the demands.
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