Bloomberg: Senate GOP to Back Trump on Border Wall, Risking Shutdown Fight

Transcend · 05:00 PM

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Senate Republicans have drafted a Homeland Security spending bill that includes the full $1.6 billion President Donald Trump wants for a wall at the Mexican border, increasing the chances of a shutdown fight before current government funding runs out Dec. 8.

Bill author Senator John Boozman of Arkansas told reporters Tuesday the border wall funds would be resolved in a giant trillion-dollar spending bill in December, along with the issue of whether to continue work permits for immigrants brought to the U.S. illegally as children, known as Dreamers.

"That will be part of the negotiations," he said. "I think at the end of the day, the president is going in insist that the border funding be there."

Boozman said the spending bill would direct construction to the areas on the border where the most human trafficking occurs. A wall along the entire border would be debated later, he said.

Democrats last week called the year-end spending bill a chance to restore Obamacare insurance subsidies, and they’ve also discussed using it to protect Dreamers from deportation. Because Senate Democrats have the power to filibuster government funding bills, the disputes over immigration, the border wall and Obamacare make the possibility of a shutdown fight very real.

The Homeland Security spending bill was set to be voted on in committee this week, though that has been postponed because of the illness of Appropriations Chairman Thad Cochran of Mississippi.

The House passed an omnibus spending bill last month that included money for the border wall. The Senate spending panel delayed taking up its bill for months as it weighed whether to go along with the wall funding.

Trump has demanded that Congress deliver funding for his border wall and make dramatic changes to immigration policy in exchange for letting Dreamers stay in the country. Democrats say the president had reneged on an agreement last month to allow about 800,000 Dreamers to remain in the U.S.

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer of New York and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi of California dined with Trump last month and said afterward they had reached a tentative accord with the president to advance legislation to replace the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program and protect from deportation undocumented immigrants brought to the U.S. as children. That deal, both leaders said, would combine those protections with a boost in border security resources, but not for a border wall.

Looks like everyone's expecting a major fight on various issues to ensue in December, when the funding bill will be voted on and passed. The real question is if Democrats will really vouch for us and use their leverage and political capital to get Dream Act passed. The Senate coming up with a deal to work around Trump's suspending of healthcare subsidies definitely opens up space for Democrats' list of priorities they'll be fighting for in December.

At this point, we already know what WH's position is on a Dreamer deal. We also know to a good degree what Senate GOP want (Succeed Act, Raise Act, etc.). The only major announcement we have yet to hear is from Speaker Paul Ryan's House GOP working group.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...shutdown-fight

Got_Daca · 10-17-2017, 04:55 PM

Give them the freaking wall so we can have our DA

Looks like Wall Funding will be passed with or without DA

Trump wants to attach Wall Funding to Spending Bill

So be it

Dems should attach DA to the same Spending Bill

1.6bln seems to be so low: comes out to be $2,000 for each Dreamer!

We can give Trump his wall in exchange for DA passage!

Transcend · 10-17-2017, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Got_Daca

Give them the freaking wall so we can have our DA

Looks like Wall Funding will be passed with or without DA

Trump wants to attach Wall Funding to Spending Bill

So be it

Dems should attach DA to the same Spending Bill

1.6bln seems to be so low: comes out to be $2,000 for each Dreamer!

We can give Trump his wall in exchange for DA passage!

Everyone knows it's not about the cost but rather about risk of energizing Trump's supporters even more. $1.6 billion is nothing and politicians threw even more at even worser projects, but they are just using the cost argument to hide their true motive.

Got_Daca · 10-17-2017, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Transcend

Everyone knows it's not about the cost but rather about risk of energizing Trump's supporters even more. $1.6 billion is nothing and politicians threw even more at even worser projects, but they are just using the cost argument to hide their true motive.

Who cares about Trumptards getting energized IF we get our DA.

There will be stupid useless medieval wall with or without DA.

fl_dreamer · 10-17-2017, 05:07 PM

Dems are set on no wall, repubs want the wall. It was fun while it lastes, guys!

Who is the weather in Canada looking?

Transcend · 10-17-2017, 05:08 PM

I think it really boils down to whether the Dems look at the big picture and decide to stick with refusing any victory for Trump so they can get back congress in a landslide or prioritize us and concede the wall in exchange for permanent relief.

Imho, conceding the wall is fsr more profitable for Dems as it's only asking for $1.6 billion which is way less than the entire cost. Dems will ample opportunity to deny him funding come next spending bills when he asks for more $$

Got_Daca · 10-17-2017, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by fl_dreamer

Dems are set on no wall, repubs want the wall. It was fun while it lastes, guys!

Who is the weather in Canada looking?

I hate defeatist attitudes so much.

No even fought yet and still giving up already.

ceaguila · 10-17-2017, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Transcend

I think it really boils down to whether the Dems look at the big picture and decide to stick with refusing any victory for Trump so they can get back congress in a landslide or prioritize us and concede the wall in exchange for permanent relief.

Imho, conceding the wall is fsr more profitable for Dems as it's only asking for $1.6 billion which is way less than the entire cost. Dems will ample opportunity to deny him funding come next spending bills when he asks for more $$

Plus it;s taken them 9 months only to buil some prototypes and it can be stopped with many lawsuits. Especially with people living across the border..

Also a lot of GOP moderates and Texas Republicans are against it. I'd let the House vote on their own bill which will show how fractured they are between the factions and once they need the Dem votes thats when you start to negotiate.

Transcend · 10-17-2017, 05:11 PM

What I do know is that the wall funding is definitely going to be in the spending bill.

Got_Daca · 10-17-2017, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ceaguila

Plus it;s taken them 9 months only to buil some prototypes and it can be stopped with many lawsuits. Especially with people living across the border..

Also a lot of GOP moderates and Texas Republicans are against it. I'd let the House vote on their own bill which will show how fractured they are between the factions and once they need the Dem votes thats when you start to negotiate.

When push comes to shove, majority of GOP (95%) will back the Wall.

Stop spreading false hope.

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