On shutdown and DACA fix, more questions than answers

jaylove16 · 01-15-2018, 12:56 PM

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But this is the first time in recent memory, maybe ever, that Democrats are actively considering withholding their votes as their actual position -- using this as the moment to have the fight over DACA. And that means a shutdown grows more plausible -- if not likely -- by the day.

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If you want to know where things stand on Capitol Hill, just five days before the government runs out of money, just take a look at these two tweets:
From Sen. Tom Cotton, an Arkansas Republican:
"So Democrats are now threatening to shut down the government if they don't get amnesty for millions of illegal immigrants. Let's see how that works out for them, especially in places like WV, IN, MO, ND, & MT."

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And from Sen. Brian Schatz, a Hawaii Democrat:
"Nobody wins a government shutdown battle but I do know one thing: If it happens it will be because a bipartisan compromise was rejected by Republicans. Anyone who says they want to avoid a shutdown should be asking for a vote on that compromise legislation.

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Where things are trending
According to multiple aides working on this, Senate Democrats are more and more leaning toward the idea of withholding their votes.

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Why? There are three reasons.
First, there is a recognition that Republicans aren't anywhere close to a deal on DACA, and the funding bill is their lone piece of leverage at the moment to force the issue.
Second, you cannot overstate the impact of the President's "shithole" comments on the caucus -- it has hardened resolve and unified the group around the idea the President would get the blame.

http://www.cnn.com/2018/01/15/politi...lay/index.html

eva02 · 01-15-2018, 12:59 PM

Thank god for trumps nasty foul shithole mouth

jaylove16 · 01-15-2018, 12:59 PM

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Keep an eye on: More and more, GOP aides, given the current impasse, are talking about the Trump administration, especially in the wake of the court order, extending DACA for a longer period of time. Especially now that the government is taking renewal applications again.
But: Those same aides acknowledge this could very well shut down the Senate for the rest of 2018, as Democrats (and some Republicans) are keen on resolving the issue -- and doing nothing else until it's done -- now.
And: This is a total non-starter for Democrats. The court order may not last and is viewed as temporary. The applications are only for renewal and not new applicants. And perhaps most importantly, the longer it lingers, the more outraged activists and the Democratic base over the issue.
As one Democratic aide put it, in the wake of the President's remarks: "This is the fight. It has to happen, whether it's now or later. We have the high ground now, so why hold off?"

Via same article. We are in for a fight boys and girls!

Got_Daca · 01-15-2018, 01:05 PM

Dems have the upper hand in a shutdown

Nobody can blame Dems

But how is a shutdown gonna help DACA?

JayR9 · 01-15-2018, 01:05 PM

Yeah Trump comment gave Democrats the ammo they needed. 1/20/2018 shut down would be beautiful slap to Trump face. 1 year after he became president the gov shuts down lol talk about incompetence.

Chn · 01-15-2018, 01:08 PM

Does the State of the Union still happen during a shutdown?

dreamer__13 · 01-15-2018, 01:09 PM

Dems will still probably not shut it down... because they have morals.

NotADreamerPerSe · 01-15-2018, 01:12 PM

And those morals will be the end of us.

eva02 · 01-15-2018, 01:15 PM

Only 7 out of 10 red state dens voted in favor of last funding bill. 51+7 does not break fillibuster.
Plus, they risk losing popular democratic endorsements and primary fights that will completely sink them

LiveYourLife · 01-15-2018, 01:15 PM

Come on Durbin it's time to whip the Big D out and slap trump in the face.

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