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Democrats would be crazy to reject Trump's DACA deal (Commentary / Opinion) - Page 2

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01-26-2018, 02:04 PM
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The Dems always fuck us over for their own benefit.
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Cryin Chuck Schumer needs to make it clear that he doesnt want to end chain migration FOR PARENTS instead of throwing away the whole deal.

Otherwise he looks like he just flat out is gonna strike down ANYTHING Trump proposes.
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01-26-2018, 03:12 PM
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smdh for everyone here. democrats are the good guys here they’ve been trying to pass the DR for over a decade but repbulicans were the ones who kept blocking it. Now that trump and republicans want something worse than DR (no parent sponsorship, stricter and longer time for qualification and maintaining status, funding for wall, funding for border security) then it’s pretty obvious that democrats don’t want this.

Plus the republicans and trump were pushing democrats to the edge with the deal that ended earlier this week. and now democrats have also rejected the offer that they’ve previously made to the republicans, now they know trump and republican’s true intentions of how they’re easily willing to give DACA relief with wall and border funding, its democrats turn to make the offer given by the republicans and trump to DACA and democrats’ favor.

you’ll see. trump and republicans will bend. DACA will get CLPR and parent sponsorship with lower wall funding. in the meantime please chill and give some thoughts into politics and don’t get played by the republicans and trump.
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smdh for everyone here. democrats are the good guys here they’ve been trying to pass the DR for over a decade but repbulicans were the ones who kept blocking it. Now that trump and republicans want something worse than DR (no parent sponsorship, stricter and longer time for qualification and maintaining status, funding for wall, funding for border security) then it’s pretty obvious that democrats don’t want this.
You are incredibly naive if you believe that. Dems need the issue for elections and fundraising. Why does no one address the fact that in 2009 Dems had SUPER majority and the presidency? The DA was an already written bill, it would've taken literally 2 hours to get it passed in both chambers! They chose NOT to do it!
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You are incredibly naive if you believe that. Dems need the issue for elections and fundraising. Why does no one address the fact that in 2009 Dems had SUPER majority and the presidency? The DA was an already written bill, it would've taken literally 2 hours to get it passed in both chambers! They chose NOT to do it!
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We've been political pawns for the Democrats for far too long. A lot of people on spanish media have realized that and have lost their jobs for saying stuff like that.

You guys need to understand the relationship between Democrats and the spanish media, like Univision.
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Democrats have been the devil, when they had total control of the house and senate during obama administration, they could not pass the dream act, but they were able to pass the obama care......second if democrats wanted, they could have passed the dream act easily last year, when republicans was scrambling quickly with their tax bill, democrats could have shutdown the government and it would prevent GOP from progressing any TAX bill, THIS WOULD HAVE ALLOWED THE GOP TO HAVE NO OPTIONS BUT PUT THE DREAM ACT INCLUDING THE TAX BILL.
right?? some of these people never read the news and think about what has happened over the years. such near sighted and so ungrateful......
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You are incredibly naive if you believe that. Dems need the issue for elections and fundraising. Why does no one address the fact that in 2009 Dems had SUPER majority and the presidency? The DA was an already written bill, it would've taken literally 2 hours to get it passed in both chambers! They chose NOT to do it!
who set up DACA and gave EADs to dreamers? Obama. Who made the pavement for legalization of dreamers? Obama did. its not that democrats could have. they coudlnt have. they obviously didnt have as much support as they do now and back then they wanted to take care of Americans first with obamacare. everything has a timing and you cannot ignore the amount of effort put into dreamers and daca from the democrats
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What's up with all the accounts created this month coming out of the wood works to call the Democrats the Devil and blaming them for everything? Is this website so popular now that Russian troll farms are targeting it?

Anyway, yeah I get it, the majority of the users here have DACA and if Trump throws you a bone, you're temped to jump at it and say thank you even if it screws many more immigrants over, but DACA recipients are not and should not be the only concern of Democrats. A lot of US citizens who were born here have parents or siblings who are undocumented and ending "chain migration" would be devastating to them. And unlike you guys who can't vote and are willing to throw them under the bus, they can vote and aren't willing to throw their parents under the bus.

There is a HUUUUGE difference between saying "We are going to deal with the dreamers first and parents are left out this time" vs. "We are going to deal with the dreamers and make sure parents will never gain legal status" which is what is happening too.

Actually, what's being proposed by the White House now is "We're only dealing with DACA recipients who through an arbitrary cut-off date hit the jackpot( by a Democrat mind you), screwing over older and future dreamers, making sure that parents and siblings of all future immigrants will also never gain any status, and as an added bonus, we're going to make enforcement a lot tougher now so not only will they not gain any status, but their lives become even harder". If you want to support that then it's your right, but you don't get to call anybody else a devil without looking in the mirror first.
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What's up with all the accounts created this month coming out of the wood works to call the Democrats the Devil and blaming them for everything? Is this website so popular now that Russian troll farms are targeting it?

Anyway, yeah I get it, the majority of the users here have DACA and if Trump throws you a bone, you're temped to jump at it and say thank you even if it screws many more immigrants over, but DACA recipients are not and should not be the only concern of Democrats. A lot of US citizens who were born here have parents or siblings who are undocumented and ending "chain migration" would be devastating to them. And unlike you guys who can't vote and are willing to throw them under the bus, they can vote and aren't willing to throw their parents under the bus.

There is a HUUUUGE difference between saying "We are going to deal with the dreamers first and parents are left out this time" vs. "We are going to deal with the dreamers and make sure parents will never gain legal status" which is what is happening too.

Actually, what's being proposed by the White House now is "We're only dealing with DACA recipients who through an arbitrary cut-off date hit the jackpot( by a Democrat mind you), screwing over older and future dreamers, making sure that parents and siblings of all future immigrants will also never gain any status, and as an added bonus, we're going to make enforcement a lot tougher now so not only will they not gain any status, but their lives become even harder". If you want to support that then it's your right, but you don't get to call anybody else a devil without looking in the mirror first.
Yeah basically Republican pills invaded the site to make trump a saint and democrats the devils. Hoping swim and fresh can ban these fake accounts
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