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Trump: We’re The Ones Taking Care Of DACA - Page 4

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#31
02-02-2018, 08:45 PM
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The only thing that keeps Democrats alive is their social message/moral high-ground. But if they indeed are leaving a million of young people's future in a limbo for the gains in 2018/2020 elections, then democrats are just as bad as anyone else. I agree that Trump's demands are harsh but that's part of negotiating - shutting him out does not do us any good. Democrats

1) Abandoned the strategy of using CR as leverage for DACA
2) Have no courage/ability to resist pressure (that's why they embarrassingly caved after 3 days and been silent ever since)
3) Have no leadership - Schumer Pelosi have no fucking idea of what they are doing (or at least for dreamers)

Sometimes we have to realize that being a minority party with little power, either you obstruct like a champ (grow a pair) or you have to give in more (aka compromise).

Btw, helping us means = ACTIONS. Talk is sweet, but cheap.
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The only thing that keeps Democrats alive is their social message/moral high-ground.
Ding Ding Ding.
That's exactly true, Dems are all trash politicians, they just try to fake this 'moral high ground' and other 'purity' tests, only when its convenient for them.
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Why the fuck when it's the time to negotiate they just shut everything. And say stupid shit like we need to help middle class too? Dreamers can't take all the stage

Explain that to me and I'll shut the fuck up for the rest of this rollercoaster and don't say THEY ARE NEGOTIATING BEHIND CURTAINS. Because we know that's bullshit the only one there is Durbin for us


Wait now you're upset with them because they shut the government?! Democrats are more than ready to negotiate with trump but how do you negotiate with someone as bipolar as Trump?
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Wait now you're upset with them because they shut the government?! Democrats are more than ready to negotiate with trump but how do you negotiate with someone as bipolar as Trump?
I'm not upset because they shut down the government. Or because they didn't keep it shut.

And if they are ready to negotiate why they don't do it? They just told trump to fuck off with his framework? Why they don't say something like

Dreamers for wall and border security. And we compromise to do a CIR and remove "chain migration" how hard is to do that instead of OMG NEGOTIATING WITH DONALD TRUMP IS JUST LIKE NEGOTIATING WITH JELLY HE WON'T TAKE OUR LOWBALL OFFERS WHAT A DOUCHE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING TO WIN BIG IN THE NEXT ELECTIONS #MORALS #CLEANDREAMACT #TRUMPRACIST.
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Dems have offered him a deal and he rejected. Seriously I’m tired of this fool already.
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I'm not upset because they shut down the government. Or because they didn't keep it shut.

And if they are ready to negotiate why they don't do it? They just told trump to fuck off with his framework? Why they don't say something like

Dreamers for wall and border security. And we compromise to do a CIR and remove "chain migration" how hard is to do that instead of OMG NEGOTIATING WITH DONALD TRUMP IS JUST LIKE NEGOTIATING WITH JELLY HE WON'T TAKE OUR LOWBALL OFFERS WHAT A DOUCHE BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING TO WIN BIG IN THE NEXT ELECTIONS #MORALS #CLEANDREAMACT #TRUMPRACIST.
That is what the Democrats are saying though. They've been trying to keep the compromise to Border Security and DREAMers, but Trump then came out with his four pillars.

Criticize the Democrats all you want, but the fact is several times since September Trump has agreed to a compromise and then changed his mind radically after consulting with President Miller.
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Dems have offered him a deal and he rejected. Seriously I’m tired of this fool already.
Pretty much

Marco Rubios Jrs for some reason despite the democrats. Republicans have gotten people whom they hate and want to deport to actually attack their enemy ( democrats )


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That is what the Democrats are saying though. They've been trying to keep the compromise to Border Security and DREAMers, but Trump then came out with his four pillars.

Criticize the Democrats all you want, but the fact is several times since September Trump has agreed to a compromise and then changed his mind radically after consulting with President Miller.


Where the hell are these dreamers who only wake up when the coffee is boiling? Democrats offered trumpna deal and he was okay with it the moments later backed out.


Democrats: hey we have a deal that gives your wall
Trump: Alright let's see it....wait no no no. NO negotiations!!!
Democrats: hey what happened ?

( where were dreamers like BeanDream to bitch about trump not wanting to negotiate?)

Months later

Trump: Okay let's do it my way
Democrats: wait what the heck...?



DAP dreamers: "see see democrats don't wanna negotiate!!!"



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That is what the Democrats are saying though. They've been trying to keep the compromise to Border Security and DREAMers, but Trump then came out with his four pillars.

Criticize the Democrats all you want, but the fact is several times since September Trump has agreed to a compromise and then changed his mind radically after consulting with President Miller.
Welp didn't know they proposed that to donald trump what I understood is that they wanted to do a dream act with only 1.6billion for border security and even help our parents with work permits without removing chain migration.

I do want a solution I'm a dreamer I want our parents to be legal i do as much as any of you guys but you gotta understand that republicans are fucking evil and they want to change immigration and they control everything. And now that trump said let's use my framework they say we can't be the focus and they need to help the middle class too.
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That is what the Democrats are saying though. They've been trying to keep the compromise to Border Security and DREAMers, but Trump then came out with his four pillars.

Criticize the Democrats all you want, but the fact is several times since September Trump has agreed to a compromise and then changed his mind radically after consulting with President Miller.
If they wanted that, they should've done it in 2009 lol. They are in the minority, they don't get to call the shots!
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Pretty much

Marco Rubios Jrs for some reason despite the democrats. Republicans have gotten people whom they hate and want to deport to actually attack their enemy ( democrats )


This is amazing






Where the hell are these dreamers who only wake up when the coffee is boiling? Democrats offered trumpna deal and he was okay with it the moments later backed out.


Democrats: hey we have a deal that gives your wall
Trump: Alright let's see it....wait no no no. NO negotiations!!!
Democrats: hey what happened ?

( where were dreamers like BeanDream to bitch about trump not wanting to negotiate?)

Months later

Trump: Okay let's do it my way
Democrats: wait what the heck...?



DAP dreamers: "see see democrats don't wanna negotiate!!!"



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Sorry I don't completely agree with you since this Marco Rubio Jr doesn't suffer from battered woman syndrome. Democrats need to continue negotiating wtf is that lowballing and blaming. They know they need to find common ground but now that trump released his framework they say they need to fight for middle class citizens. Is not all about the dreamers. And yes I was there talking shit about trump being a little bitch
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