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Inside the Senate's ugly immigration breakdown - Page 2

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02-16-2018, 11:14 AM
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Trump tweet: Cannot believe how BADLY DACA recipients have been treated by the Democrats...totally abandoned! Republicans are still working hard.

I actually agree with him on this one, lol.
Working hard to make it impossible for anything to pass...
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02-16-2018, 11:27 AM
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Trump tweet: Cannot believe how BADLY DACA recipients have been treated by the Democrats...totally abandoned! Republicans are still working hard.

I actually agree with him on this one, lol.
The GOP did not want anything to pass that could be construed as a wide-ranging legalization program. Both sides played politics, but immigrants are simply not within the GOP's base. We've always known what the Democrats, however inept they were in negotiating, were looking for: a fix for DACA without radically changing the legal immigration system. This is not a departure from what their platform has always been. The GOP, however, is trying to flip this by claiming the high ground, when anyone who has ever followed this debate for the last 17 years has seen that they have either lacked the leadership or the will to move this position to an acceptable one for their base.

Yes, there is great public support for Dreamers, but the problem is that the GOP turned this debate into a wider one involving all immigrants, which is anathema to their base. That was intentional. There was no real reason to do that; this debate is happening because of the discrete decision by Trump to rescind DACA. The debate should have just focused on fixing DACA, but the GOP turned this into enforcement + wall + legal immigration + diversity visas.

So, who's treating Dreamers poorly? Which party's leadership politicizes tragedies involving immigrants? Which party's leadership incites violence against immigrants and minorities? Which party's leadership has kicked this can down the road for almost two decades?
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02-16-2018, 11:32 AM
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Trump tweet: Cannot believe how BADLY DACA recipients have been treated by the Democrats...totally abandoned! Republicans are still working hard.

I actually agree with him on this one, lol.
Trump ended the daca program. His ag very gleefully announced it.
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02-16-2018, 11:48 AM
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Trump tweet: Cannot believe how BADLY DACA recipients have been treated by the Democrats...totally abandoned! Republicans are still working hard.

I actually agree with him on this one, lol.
The Goodlatte/shittlatte bill isn’t working hard moron .

Btw, I think Trump is going to cave eventually and just accept dream act for the wall.
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they are working hard to end legal immigration to the US. That's all they are working hard on.
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02-16-2018, 12:43 PM
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The Goodlatte/shittlatte bill isn’t working hard moron .

Btw, I think Trump is going to cave eventually and just accept dream act for the wall.
The DEMS need to hold Trump's wall hostage to the very end...that could be the key thing that makes Trump give up and get a Dream Act done.

If they let the Repubs strongarm them into a DACA extension deal for wall money...that would be a total disaster IMO.
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I am telling you, those Democrats fu*ked us in the ass. The Collins bill would have passed if some idiot would not have changed the prioritization to deport date from January, 2018 to June, 2018. Like are you kidding me? After that who will pass this bill? I heard these bastards even wrote it with pen. They probably thought it was not good if it passed after all.
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I am telling you, those Democrats fu*ked us in the ass. The Collins bill would have passed if some idiot would not have changed the prioritization to deport date from January, 2018 to June, 2018. Like are you kidding me? After that who will pass this bill? I heard these bastards even wrote it with pen. They probably thought it was not good if it passed after all.
I'm sure that turned away a few GOP senators who would have otherwise voted for it. That little piece was the reason the DHS released it's statement saying they were against it, so did the White House. Collins changed it at the very last second to Jan.1 2018 but it was too late, the damage was already done.
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I actually agree with him on this one, lol.
Trump is a manipulative liar who rejected all bipartisan proposals at Miller's request because their goal was to also change the entire immigration system.

This is about D R E A M E R S. All the adults who came as children and are 99% American.

Senator Durbin will have to attach relief to the omnibus which was the original plan anyway.

It's the least that they can do.
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I'm sure that turned away a few GOP senators who would have otherwise voted for it. That little piece was the reason the DHS released it's statement saying they were against it, so did the White House. Collins changed it at the very last second to Jan.1 2018 but it was too late, the damage was already done.
I feel as if the WH/GOP could have said "We'll support the compromise if you take that part out or do a later date" instead of rallying against the bill. Maybe they did behind the scenes...but I'm doubtful. In the end it was an easy excuse for the GOP to be against the compromise.
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