Senate pivots to stopgap 'Dreamers' deal - Page 3

That is where we fundamentally disagree.

But to take your point: If the Democrats think Trump has a chance to win in 2020, they will definitely not go for $7.6 Billions in return for a stop-gap measure.

Trump will be able to campaign on "I built the wall with my deal-making ability over the Democrats".

If the Democrats are going to give any money, it should be for a permanent fix.

Dems would be dumb to agree to temp relief, bad for midterms and bad for advocacy.

and bad for you (Non-DACAers), aged out Dreamers, and younger Dreamers. lol

Daca is not expected to survive. Obama's legal counsel who created Daca said so himself:

"Trump clearly has the legal authority to nullify DACA," said Peter Spiro, an immigration law professor at Temple University who supports DACA. "That’s the problem generally with executive action -- what is done by one president can be undone by a successor. Live by the sword die by the sword."

‘Quasi-Legal Status
Cornell University law professor Stephen Yale-Loehr said DACA was a stop-gap way to prioritize who would be put into deportation proceedings while Congress took up the issue of immigration reform. Dreamers were left with “sort of a quasi-legal status,” he said.

While some have now been
based on commitments made on the assumption that DACA would continue -- subject to a judge’s finding they should have known it could be easily undone.

Hans von Spakovsky, a lawyer at the conservative Heritage Foundation, said any lawsuit against Trump is doomed because only Congress has the power to grant the kind of privileges that DACA gave to some undocumented immigrants. He notes that a similar program, the Obama administration’s Deferred Action for Parents of Americans and Lawful Permanent Residents, was overturned by a federal appeals court, a point that Sessions also made in his remarks Tuesday.

“They may find some very liberal activist judge who might rule against Trump, but by the time this gets to the Supreme Court the government is going to win,” von Spokovsky said in a phone

Challenging Trump's 'Dreamers' Decision Will Be an Uphill Battle
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...-uphill-battle

Precisely because is only for 3 years, we need to include all Dreamers.

Won't 7 .6 billion be enough to build the wall? 25 billion was for the wall plus other measures.

we need to include parents of Dreamers as well and all the parents that wouldve qualified for DAPA.

DACA will end, but most likely SCOTUS will rule that the administration needs to follow APA when cancelling a program.

If not, then the case will be a landmark case for a very different reason. Future presidents can start and end programs and bypass the APA's notice-and-comment period etc... SCOTUS will essentially overturn APA, a law that has been constitutional for over 70+ years.

I don't see how SCOTUS will rule in Trump's favor unless they want to make that precedent.

Not Good. We want aged out Dreamers covered.

Exactly, if it's $7.6B just for stop-gap, aged out dreamers must be included.

If Democrats vote for this or any other legislation that gives subcitizenship in exchange for even a cent for his wall, it will be an admission that they are not only the weakest political actors in US history, but will also be an admission that they are complicit in our suffering.

Fuck Flake and fuck Heitkamp, an illegitimate Democrat who refused to even vote for McCain-Coons.