US deportations targeting more people with no crime records - Page 2

Yup no doubt. Rather have representation vs not.

arrests =/= actual deportations.
don't be dishonest now.

I want to know what "non-criminals" means. Is it ticket for driving under the influence? Is it a parking ticket?

The former - deserves to be deported. You do not violate a rule that can potentially kill someone. Deport them. I 200% applaud for that. Parking ticket - c'mon, that's stupid for deportation.

Everytime I read something about deportation, it almost always turn out to be someone with some kind of conviction such as rape and gang violence, or some kind of fraud. For example, the activist Ravi Ragbir - I was curious why ICE wanted to deport him and it turned out he was a fraud, stealing money from seniors in the 90s. The argument for protecting him from deportation is that he has already served time and shouldn't be "tried for the second time" which is illegal. I don't know - mixed feelings about him. I'd rather have an illegal who never commits any crime - a hardworking, honest person rather than a convicted felon. Sorry, Ravi.

Nope. Most were just already in the system due to lack of status which categorically does not distinguish them from the remaining undocumented population. This is why enforcement priorities for criminal conduct are legally sound.

We need to see the proof that they are not criminals - crime is quite broad. Is parking in no-parking zone a crime? What is a crime?

As I edited above though, I am okay to remove Ravi. I am not okay to remove someone because of their immigration applications got fucked up either by the immigration agency or by their lawyers. Those are not cool. I don't want to deport hard working men and women who are here for better lives. But someone driving under influence - put them back on the plane. You are stupid if you drive under influence.

The reason I am insist on proof because often newspaper headline just says "ICE deporting people", then when you read the actual article (or TV), we found most are convicted felons. This article doesn't tell us though.

Different people have different situations. When I was in college there was no way I could have come up with 7 grand for example, so you can't just say there is something wrong with people who don't have this kind of money. Even today if I was detained, I would have to stop and think about it as I would rather spend this money in immigrating to another country than delay a deportation.

Who's Ravi??

@jwxie518:

Never mind - I see who now . He has a lot of support and top legal representation, but he apparently lost status due to financial fraud.

I try not to judge. He wants a second chance, which is what we are asking for. On the other hand, you have heads of households and Dreamers who grew up here caught up in deportation who do not get the same level of support and have no criminal background.

We just need a solution and then hold people accountable for keeping that solution for themselves.

Yes, exactly on bolded point. I just thought the whole crying over Ravi was bad. Sometimes, you don't get a second chance. That's why I said I am not really sure whether I'd really want him to be deported or not in the first comment. Mixed feelings. BTW, I agree that the fact that ICE will now work on any cases (criminal or not) is sad and a threat to the good people in the whole undocumented community.

A coyote is cheaper and less of a gamble