Mark Meadows: House Freedom Caucus moving to give DACA recipients citizenship - Page 3

Originally Posted by dtrt09

I call BS; there is no such thing as permanent DACA and certainly no line to citizenship through it.

The discharge petition was brought about for USAAct, Dream Act, RAC Act to cover all childhood arrivals.

Fuck the freedom caucus, Meadows and his restrictionist crap. People like his ilk at DHS are already in deep shit for losing 1500 children and abusing families and children. What they really want is to piggyback the failed Farm bill on a successful Dreamer-relief bill.

Originally Posted by freshh.

Exactly.

The Freedom Caucus is going to cave on chain migration and the DV lottery because they want to stay relevant like several other members have mentioned. Making these two items the sticking points will lead to a break down in talks sooner rather than later ensuring the success of the discharge petition. The easiest way out is to eliminate any changes to chain migration and the DV lotto and focus on a DACA + Border Security package.

IMHO, we're going to end up with one of two things (if talks don't fall apart altogether):

1. DACA + Border Wall without a pathway to citizenship meaning we find our own way to citizenship within the current immigration system.
2. DACA + Border Wall with conditional green cards that do not allow us to adjust for 10-12 years. This appeases their base by saying we didn't get any special treatment and they avoided a new wave of DREAMers in the future.

Originally Posted by freshh.

Exactly.

The Freedom Caucus is going to cave on chain migration and the DV lottery because they want to stay relevant like several other members have mentioned. Making these two items the sticking points will lead to a break down in talks sooner rather than later ensuring the success of the discharge petition. The easiest way out is to eliminate any changes to chain migration and the DV lotto and focus on a DACA + Border Security package.

IMHO, we're going to end up with one of two things (if talks don't fall apart altogether):

1. DACA + Border Wall without a pathway to citizenship meaning we find our own way to citizenship within the current immigration system.
2. DACA + Border Wall with conditional green cards that do not allow us to adjust for 10-12 years. This appeases their base by saying we didn't get any special treatment and they avoided a new wave of DREAMers in the future.

Originally Posted by JayR9

You're giving the FC too much credit if you think they will land anywhere close to those two options.

Originally Posted by freshh.

Exactly.

The Freedom Caucus is going to cave on chain migration and the DV lottery because they want to stay relevant like several other members have mentioned. Making these two items the sticking points will lead to a break down in talks sooner rather than later ensuring the success of the discharge petition. The easiest way out is to eliminate any changes to chain migration and the DV lotto and focus on a DACA + Border Security package.

IMHO, we're going to end up with one of two things (if talks don't fall apart altogether):

1. DACA + Border Wall without a pathway to citizenship meaning we find our own way to citizenship within the current immigration system.
2. DACA + Border Wall with conditional green cards that do not allow us to adjust for 10-12 years. This appeases their base by saying we didn't get any special treatment and they avoided a new wave of DREAMers in the future.

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith

1 wouldnt be bad if it leaves everything as it is. But if has any dumb things that fucks it up for the rest of immigrants the no way.

Originally Posted by versailles

define "fuck it up for the rest of immigrants"

Originally Posted by libertarian1776

should include “all childhood arrivals” for people who dont have DACA like dtrt09 and DACA-IR-DA.

so like 3 million plus people aka mini comprehensive immigration reform.

Originally Posted by BeansDreamtoo21

Imagine if republicans pass an immigration bill for us using the nuclear option lul