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Fox News fact checking Sarah Huckabee Sanders to her face...lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v8PJc10Ozc

What do you mean? Numbers are numbers, it applies to anything. If you owe $40k in taxes, give the IRS $60 and see what happens. When the government funds an agency for $40 billion but only writes a check for $60 million, you think that'll work out well?

If someone asks you to drive 60 miles, you think you'll get there in an hour if you're on a high way. But 4000 miles is the distance from LA to new york PLUS an additional 1210 miles.

If the bank says we'll finish transferring the money to your account and says they'll take 6 days but takes 4000 days, that almost 11 years.

Congress writes a bill, kills DACA and says "dreamers shouldn't worry that DACA is dead, they can apply for legal status in 60 days", that means you won't be able to apply for 110 years.

Your phone advertises as 4000 mah battery but you actually get one with 6 mah. Have you seen a phone that has a 6 mah battery?

There's no where in the world that this "exaggeration" would be viable or logical.

4000 show up in airports because of the broken immigration system that both sides have failed to address. They may not be funded but they are indeed working and keeping america safe from terrorism. They'll even get back pay from this fiasco by your beloved president.

If you use my logic, then youd put up a reasonable sounding argument. But to use your ill-logic, its clearly a left leaning bias because only a lefty would think that removing guns from civilians will reduce deaths. Nope, they'll just switch to knives. In the UK the muslims use trucks to do mass mayhem.

My logic is simple, require people purchasing a firearm go thru evaluations, and allow them to buy all guns they wish for. That includes fully automatic. Just cause more bullets come out doesnt make it more dangerous. Fully automatic guns are for suppressive fire. Semi automatic are the ones that are for accurate killing. Now with bumpstocks people have the best of both.

If you take guns from honorable hardworking patriots you just empower the criminals who dont mind breaking laws. Cops on average take quite a long time to get places. I dont think any american should cower in fear or watch a criminal take their loved ones' lives just cause you wanted to strip guns away from lawful owners.

Last but not least, a gun removal australia style would just result in a mass uprising because of the second amendment which says shall not be abridged. Strong gun rights protect strong speech rights. Might makes right.

You forgot to include all the hundreds of thousands of people who get in. Not just terrorists but some real awful people are getting in from hondouras and el salvador. Kate got killed cause a guy got deported couldnt stay deported. This death is on your hands. A wall is the most moral thing we can do to solve this problem. A wall with an overhauled immigration system and 21st century investigative technology.

Just the savings on deaths of just one innocent person is worth all 25 Billion, perhaps even more than 25Billion. Not only that, but a DACA solution, for you, and for all the Dreamers plus TPS is absolutely fuckin worth 25Billion. Build that stupid wall. If you can't agree then you are on the side of the criminals, thugs, and on the side of drugs entering our nation. God bless America.

Also the trump wall is supposed to have the main barrier and a secondary barrier. One to prevent ladders, and inside a road to CBP can show up. Then a second wall with razor wire. In israel they have a wall and it stopped the terrorists in palestine from entering and causing harm. They just have tall concrete slabs. Whenever terrorists explode a concrete section israeli border guards rush the area like ants and clean house.

I read about halfway into that, Full Autos are only legal if they were grandfathered pre-1986. So yeah you can definitely buy an M-16 lower receiver or a Drop in Auto Sear but these will cost you 25k and 13k, respectively and since these are Class III weapons you have to do the Tax Stamp with the ATF to get it transferred to you.

Did it take 4,000 terrorists to do what happened on 9/11? One is all it takes. You’re acting as if it’s better to have 6 of them instead of 4,000. How about NONE!

Once I become a citizen I'd love to go to a private range and use a tommy gun. Man badass.

Gun removal is just an example, not the point. To say that lots of illegal things get through the border, it's the same at the airport. Numbers are numbers, you cay say $25 billion is worth protecting 1 person because 6 terrorists can kill one person. Then you must be willing to spend 3.8 trillion to stop 4000 terrorist to protect 667 people. Again, the entire budget of the country for 2018 is around ~4 trillion. America would be more than broke, it'd grind to a halt. The cost to benefit ratio is unrealistic. By the way, a wall by itself does nothing. All you need is a ladder. You can dig below the wall. What you need in addition to the wall is people, which costs more than just the wall. That additional cost isn't even being factored in.

On the topic of just "terrorists" coming into the USA. 3994 come through airports but 6 comes through the border. You'd rather spend 5.7 billion to get 6 people than the other 3994?

Let me put it this way. Your body has 4000 cancer cells. One treatment costs $5.7 billion to kill 6 cells. The other treatment kills 3994 cells and costs $7.58 billion. Tell me which one you'd take.

7.58 billion is the budget for TSA and for those that actually care about "terrorists", you should be yelling for the TSA to be funded but no one gives a damn.

People say we don't want illegals because they take our jobs (money, which is a limited resource should go to Americans) but they're the same ones that think spending $3.8 trillion per year (DOUBLING government spending putting the government in a deficit of $4.58 TRILLION PER YEAR assuming you don't raise taxes) is ok among other things. If you do this, you cannot call yourself fiscally responsible.

This is the kind of crap I hate. No one in the right mind thinks this makes sense or feasible. No one in their real life would ever look at the number 6 and say it's 4000. It's how toxic politics are.

All I've done here is to extrapolate the numbers and the specific topic in question is stopping potential terrorists coming from to the US. 4000 potential terrorists, vast majority stopped at the airport / international airport. I've also put things into perspective in respect to budgets of the TSA and total US government budget for 2018. For some reason, doing this is biased.

Ok, convince the American people to spend at least $3.8 trillion per year on it and if you don't raise taxes, the government runs at a deficit of $4.58 TRILLION per year. Or convince the American people to pay at least double the taxes they do now.

It will not include terrorists that are radicalized in the United States also or even people that are American citizens.

Yall gotta stop it with the long ass posts, gaddaym.

I missed this thread. It is damn long. Trolls are talking about gun control. wtf?!