Democrats weigh reconciliation bill for immigration action - Page 4

hDreamer1988 · 04-07-2021, 10:21 PM

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Like what? Only thing they do is pass is tax cuts for the rich and leave it at that. Literally the only major partisan bill that the 115th congress produced was the "Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017". They came close to doing a "skinny repeal" of ACA by budget reconciliation until McCain got confronted by the Grim Reaper in the bathroom and voted no.

Abortion, Immigration, Same-sex marriage, gun rights, etc are all just convenient boogeymen that will never be tackled by them because what do you use to scare your cousin-fucking base into the voting booths if you "fixed" all the issues? Filibuster's just a convenient smokescreen because "Ah schucks, sorry guys, we can't override state requirements regarding carry permits because democrats won't play ball".

Let us not forget Trump's 4 pillars for immigration. That would be law... although we would have gotten our GC from that.

PapiChulo · 04-07-2021, 10:28 PM

Joe Manchin is an idiot. there is no such thing as bipartisanship anymore, man...

just pass the most liberal legislation via nuking the fillibuster or thru reconciliation.

if republicans win the government back again then so be it. they can pass the most conservative agenda.

who cares? its a cycle every 8 years..

hDreamer1988 · 04-07-2021, 10:47 PM

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Joe Manchin is an idiot. there is no such thing as bipartisanship anymore, man...

just pass the most liberal legislation via nuking the fillibuster or thru reconciliation.

if republicans win the government back again then so be it. they can pass the most conservative agenda.

who cares? its a cycle every 8 years..

I agree. He is either living in the past or putting on a show for the WV red base. Manchin's convictions are very flexible, won't break them, but he can bend them to fit his needs. Look at his stance on the fillibuster.

2Face · 04-08-2021, 08:57 AM

Joey Manchin says hello....

Imthexman · 04-08-2021, 09:42 AM

Manchin keeps changing his mind.

Pretty soon all the attention is going to go to him, his position is a double edge sword, he also wouldn't want to be the reason nothing gets done, I can see AOC and her friends campaigning against him prertty soon if he keeps this crap on, but I also think he is doing all this for a show and at the end he is going to play ball with the dems as he did with the covid rescue package.

I think at this point reconciliation (whether the parliamentarian accepts it or not) is the only path to get the DA or some form of it passed. There is no way 10 Republicans are going vote for anything right now, even linsey is treating to vote against his own bill lol.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/u-democra...010247962.html

hDreamer1988 · 04-08-2021, 10:24 AM

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Pretty soon all the attention is going to go to him, his position is a double edge sword, he also wouldn't want to be the reason nothing gets done, I can see AOC and her friends campaigning against him prertty soon if he keeps this crap on, but I also think he is doing all this for a show and at the end he is going to play ball with the dems as he did with the covid rescue package.

AOC and liberals cant touch him in WV...the state is deep red. Manchin needs his act to keep his red voters voting blue.

I don't think Manchin will support CIR by reconciliation but he has indicated in the past he could support farm+daca with border security.

SEPT 06 · 04-09-2021, 09:44 AM

Any update on Hanen case in Texas today?

ECW · 04-10-2021, 12:23 AM

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In its own brief tonight, the Biden administration declares that DACA is lawful and urges Judge Hanen to deny Texas' request for the program to be ended.

If Hanen does rule that DACA is unlawful, the administration says he should suspend his ruling, or not require DHS to end it.

https://twitter.com/camiloreports/st...26215594627072

Demise · 12:03 PM

I mean lets see what happens when push comes to shove cause it can go one of two ways:

1. If he does actually vote no then well, fuck him in the ass. Lets hope that somebody like Grassley croaks and lets put every dollar the DNC has into that race.
2. If he does the song and dance and at the end of the day votes yes then thank you very much Democratic Susan Collins, you are our most frustrating ally.

Remember kids, in the senate only look at the voting record because you have assholes paying lip service to either side and then doing the exact opposite.

ECW · 04-10-2021, 02:54 PM

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Camilo Montoya-Galvez
@camiloreports
Replying to
@camiloreports
"The disruptive consequences of invalidating DACA immediately, particularly without permitting an orderly wind-down, would be immense. Recipients have depended on DACA to support themselves and their families and build their lives in the United States," the Biden admin. said.

https://twitter.com/camiloreports/st...26687286099968

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