Trump Tweet About DACA - Page 10

I said, if that's what they honestly believe. I didn't say if they like this or not.

If you truely believe dems are just using you, then both parties are against you so there's 0 chance of getting any relief. That becomes a fact. Based on that fact, then it's the correct conclusion.

Democrats have been focusing on healthcare since 2009, they passed a bill they all agreed to and signed it into law. That healthcare bill cost them over 1,000 seats nationwide. A grand total of a net loss of 1,042 state and federal Democratic posts, including congressional and state legislative seats, governorships and the presidency.

It’s 2018 soon to be 2019, don’t you think it’s about time they move to a different issue?

And you got right it when I say both parties don’t intend on helping us, because one party wants to deport us and the other party pander to us come election time, and yes Dreamers are already looking into other options because you might get to 50 and still think there will be some DACA relief.

Imagine how those Dreamers that we’re our age felt back in 2001 when the Dream Act was first introduce. 18 years later and still a lot of question marks, of course you have to look for other options, how dysfunctional this Congress and White House is you’d be dumb to pin your future on them when they can’t even agree on a single thing.

The healthcare issue is not done. Mainly because in the past 2 years, the individual mandate has been removed and on top of that, a Texas court ruled that ACA is unconstitutional. The ACA at best is crippled and something will happen, which most likely will come from democrats. During the election, dems can't just say we're anti-trump to win, it's not enough.

I agree with you that those who believe they know dems are stringing them along are most likely seeking other ways to legalize. However, for the purposes of discussion, we are talking about DACA people getting some sort of permanent relief. If you moved out of the country or legalized through other means, you aren't considered DACA anymore (or at least dependent on DACA).

All I know is that I hate politics.... ):

I am going to say to cmeow:

Open the door, seriously. This world is corrupted. I don't care who give me a path to legal status. If it's Trump, great. If it's Obama, great. I simply don't give a fuck about anything but getting myself out of this loop.

Everyone here understands the damage Miller and Republicans have done to many of us. But I have to admit if it weren't for the rescission of DACA, no one would even remember DACA is a thing in 2017/2018. Let alone in 2021. So please open the door and stay with the present. Democrats need to step up and bring up a deal after Jan 3.

I’m not sure if you missed my point or not since you brought healthcare into the conversation. But when you lose over 1k seats and these lost were before any of the rulings you just mention above, I think it’s time to consider that Obamacare was a failure. It may have worked for some, but not the majority of Americans.

These elections lost were the aftermath of a healthcare bill crafted and signed by Democrats way before any of the rulings you mentioned above. That to me is saying we failed, either we move on to the next subject or try to find a different approach.

But if I were them and I had to chose between fixing DACA or Healthcare I think most Americans would sympathize with us because the last thing they want is a government run healthcare program and most Americans understand our situation including some Trump voters believe it or not.

And to you’re last post, it’s sad that it has come down to it but yes most dreamers are willing to risk their DACA status as long as they find a permanent relief. If you go into the Lounge area of this forum you’ll find plenty of stories of people either trying to adjust through marriage, family sponsoring, work sponsorship or applying to Canada and seeing if they qualify for their point system.

This Congress is so dysfunctional, you have you’re moderate Republicans vs right wingers, establishment Democrats vs progressives, no one can agree with anyone on anything that yes it’s best to find other alternatives to our issue and that wouldn’t make it a crime to do so.

Agree I am at a point of getting something with travel or take everything away from me.
If they deport us so be it. I want to be able to plan my life we are currently in limbo stuck in a cage.

Democrats will not bring up DACA in relation to this shutdown. It's their best move if they hope to pass any legislation related to DREAMers. Unfortunately, it does make Democrats look like they are only using DREAMers for political purposes. Again, though, it's their best move.

18 years ago, DACA did not exist. DACA gave the DREAMer issue traction in Congress. And if nothing else (i.e. legislation), DACA gave DREAMers a better chance changing their legal status through other means.

As a side note, the ACA much like DACA, is only a stepping stone: ACA to Medicare for all and DACA to DREAM Act.

Even if they bring advanced parole I will be happy I want to have a chance to see my grandparents.

Medicare for all is a pipe dream that only Bernie bros believe.

What’s next free college, free housing, free money? Yeah it may sound all nice but it’s a pipe dream and it’s bothersome that people fall for that crap.

Most analysts expect that Medicare will run out of money come 2026 yet people expect the government to expand it to everyone?