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#151
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LOL you believe Trump. The guy who already compromised but backed off. Twice. You're a fool.
So what’s your plan Ms. Smart guy? Tell the president no on everything and not even try to compromise? You do realize if we want anything to pass we need his signature right? That’s how the process works.
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Democrats are not gonna let it happen and neither would some Republicans. This is why Democrats need to come out and heavily oppose it instead of just denying the whole legislation (That isnt even that bad)
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So what’s your plan Ms. Smart guy? Tell the president no on everything and not even try to compromise? You do realize if we want anything to pass we need his signature right? That’s how the process works.
My plan is irrelevant because I am not the one negotiating.
I'm simply pointing out that you're a fool for believing that Trump and his administration are negotiating in good faith.
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#154
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My mom and I agree on one thing, if this leads to me getting citizenship, she's willing to never get papers herself. And if it comes to her getting deported, I would rather be a citizen to be able to help her out then be undocumented
Mine too. All of our parents are... But are you okay with that? Of course they are currently in fear of being deported but once Democrats agree with this reform, they will go even harder after illegals. Chances of our parents will most likely go from 10% to 50%.
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My plan is irrelevant because I am not the one negotiating.
I'm simply pointing out that you're a fool for believing that Trump and his administration are negotiating in good faith.
Exactly you have no plan, yet you’re here bitchin and crying. No one says he is negotiating in good faith smart guy, but if the president is saying let’s meet up half way and try to fix this then you do it! That’s how congress works, that’s how you get things done!
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Exactly you have no plan, yet you’re here bitchin and crying. No one says he is negotiating in good faith smart guy, but if the president is saying let’s meet up half way and try to fix this then you do it! That’s how congress works, that’s how you get things done!
That's what they've been trying to do since October and the Trump administration always moves the demands farther to the right. You really can't see that? I understand that people see what they wanna see, but dont lets not be delusional.

My plan would be to DA + Wall + ending visa lottery
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Mine too. All of our parents are... But are you okay with that? Of course they are currently in fear of being deported but once Democrats agree with this reform, they will go even harder after illegals. Chances of our parents will most likely go from 10% to 50%.
Sorry bud, but if you think Trump isn’t going to start ramping up deportations regardless of whether they pass this or not you are sadly in for a rude awakening. This is our only chance to actually protect them, even a little, because we wouldn’t have to fear for our own safety.
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if chain migration is not met they will take the citizen ship option out the door.
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fl_dreamer's dad is in detention as of right now, my parents were already deported.

it's better for us to help them when we are already legal.

fl_dreamer cant even visit his father in detention right now bcuz she might get detained as well.

enforcement is coming from this administration regardless of any laws are passed.

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Mine too. All of our parents are... But are you okay with that? Of course they are currently in fear of being deported but once Democrats agree with this reform, they will go even harder after illegals. Chances of our parents will most likely go from 10% to 50%.
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can't have it all. We shouldn't even be here if you really think about it
Im happy if Trump gets his plan. But only because itll benefit me. And I only think like that today because we live in a very unjust, dog eat dog world.

But I also see why democrats are fighting it. This merit base is going to end up only allowing people with trades to come in the country. Doctors, scientists, engineers etc.That means no more middle class immigrants coming in.

Which sucks bc thats what the "American Dream" is all about. Coming here bc you know you dont have the same opportunities in your home country. Trump and co. want to make it so only people who've already made it are allowed to come here. Essentially killing the American Dream.
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