Shutdown/border wall thread - Page 18
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Originally Posted by dtrt09
Nonsense.
The millions of us who are left of center or progressive and who would vote Democratic are still waiting for the chance to earn citizenship. Obama's years were a waste of opportunity. Had they quickly done imm reform in 2009, we would have voted in the previous election AND they would have millions more participating in the ACA which is the only tangible achievement of the last administration. They can fix it now and do it soon. Medicare for all will not work without the millions of undocumented workers (officially)contributing their share. Again this is all about labor. Your Daca EAD, all the others' right to work, not just protection from deportation. |
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Democrats need to move away from that rethoric.
Immigration is unpopular. Reason why you see all these world movements.
They need to find a way to negotiate for DACA because we already have it.
Other than that other people should and will have to live illegally, or adjust through other means.
Major reform is not popular. Not even with democratic control.
Not that I am against reform by the way. I would for it to happen. However there are waaaay more pressing issues that should be at the forefront of progressives.
The environment, equality and fair wages for the middle class
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Originally Posted by DACAgogue
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Originally Posted by JohannBernoulli1667
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Democrats need to move away from that rethoric. Immigration is unpopular. Reason why you see all these world movements. They need to find a way to negotiate for DACA because we already have it. Other than that other people should and will have to live illegally, or adjust through other means. Major reform is not popular. Not even with democratic control. Not that I am against reform by the way. I would for it to happen. However there are waaaay more pressing issues that should be at the forefront of progressives. The environment, equality and fair wages for the middle class |
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Originally Posted by JohannBernoulli1667
There are no others...
Democrats need to move away from that rethoric. Immigration is unpopular. Reason why you see all these world movements. They need to find a way to negotiate for DACA because we already have it. Other than that other people should and will have to live illegally, or adjust through other means. Major reform is not popular. Not even with democratic control. Not that I am against reform by the way. I would for it to happen. However there are waaaay more pressing issues that should be at the forefront of progressives. The environment, equality and fair wages for the middle class |
They are tied together.
#UWD and the other self-serving organizations are focused on keeping their own funding, are ineffective for the undocumented community at large, and on top of it, keep asking the rest of the taxpaying population to fund Daca fees while other undocumented workers powering the economy without the benefits of Daca are ripped away from their communities and families.
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Originally Posted by Alby
Did we get GC? I know we wouldn’t but I don’t want be a grinch. Not this year, or next year, not the following year, not the following following year. Find it funny how some still have faith and listen to tweets with mention of DACA. I remember Kennedy saying “Si se Puede”. Where is he now? Down underground!
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This all could end if they just bring back up the 2013 Senate Comprehensive Immigration Reform Bill.
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