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NILC's weekly update for 5/27 - Page 2

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05-29-2009, 09:15 AM
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I'm not worried about sponsors, I just want the votes. And I don't care about party affiliation, I just want the votes.

Even though Dems are in control of Congress, I'm still worried. CIR (McCain/Kennedy) should have passed and Bush would have signed for sure. But for some reason, it didn't happen. And it could easily happen again.

We've got to keep contacting our reps. in Washington. Here in Texas, my letters to Cornyn did not receive very positive replies. His vote just doesn't seem like it's going to happen. But Hutchinson looks like a very strong possibility, but if she moves into the governor spot, then there's no way to tell what happens with whoever takes her spot.
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05-29-2009, 11:16 AM
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I'm not worried about sponsors, I just want the votes. And I don't care about party affiliation, I just want the votes.

Even though Dems are in control of Congress, I'm still worried. CIR (McCain/Kennedy) should have passed and Bush would have signed for sure. But for some reason, it didn't happen. And it could easily happen again.
You really shouldn't be mystified. The reason CIR and Dream didn't pass back in 2007 was because Republicans filibustered the bills.
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05-29-2009, 01:37 PM
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You really shouldn't be mystified. The reason CIR and Dream didn't pass back in 2007 was because Republicans filibustered the bills.
And the reason Republicans were against the bill was because of the massive efforts by those against it. They really did an amazing job of communicating with their representatives and letting them know they were against the bill. We've got to be able to match that effort this time.

Politicians tend to do whatever they think will keep them in office. If we let them know that we voters are for the DREAM act, then we've got a chance.
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^ That and also, the 2008 election reduced the Republican minority to a bare nub. 60 Democratic Senate seats will help us a great deal in passing CIR and the Dream Act. We may just care about the votes, but that still doesn't hide the fact that we're heavily dependent on Democratic votes for immigration bills.

President Obama will help us a great deal as well. President Bush's unpopularity helped kill CIR and Bush's cowardly opposition and veiled veto threat to the Dream Act was not helpful.
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I always thought Bush was a supporter of CIR? Kind of surprised at that response.

My only worry with Obama is that he is so heavily supported by unions. Hopefully, everything he's done concerning the auto industry has earned him enough good will with them that he can support CIR and DREAM act without risking any political backlash.
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Please stop the unsubstantiated hand-wringing and false information. Unions offer unified support to immigration reform now. In past immigration battles, unions were split with the SEIU always supporting immigration reform, others neutral, and some against because of the guest worker program.

Bush was for CIR (not that his support helped any) but opposed the Dream Act as a stand alone when the Dream Act failed to pass the Senate even though the bill got a majority of Senators but fell to a Republican filibuster.
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Sorry. Not trying to cause a problem. Thanks for the info on unions. The last time, I had heard that unions weren't supporters. Thanks for clearing it up for me.
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No problem. We try to educate people on immigration/Dream Act news here at DAP.
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still, it shows that DREAM has more of a partisan support than bipartisan.
could you shut the fuck up for once?
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could you shut the fuck up for once?
lol this kid is nerd raging.
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