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DAP Forums > DREAM Act > The News Room

The New Operation Wetback: Immigration and Mass Incarceration in the Obama Era - Page 2

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08-10-2011, 01:01 AM
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one question what makes us better? divide and conquer that has been an old tactic...we should stick together..regardless of education, better life, money. we all seek one purpose
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08-10-2011, 03:08 AM
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It doesn't matter who takes office buddy. Obama has already proven that he can't do a damn thing. People are angry and they're making it clear that they do not want Obama to win a second term. Obama is not our only hope. There is no hope for us Dreamers. Did you forget what happened last year? The Dream Act died even though Democrats had a super majority in the House and a majority in the Senate. At this point even if Democrats regain those seats next year it wont make a difference. The GOP is dead set against Obama. It doesn't matter who wins in 2012. We're screwed either way.
The Democrats never had the super majority in the Senate. They had to deal with the Franken-Coleman election issue in 2008 which left Minnesota with one less senator thus leaving the dems with a 59-40 lead over the GOP...and when Franken managed to get sworn in we ended up losing Ted Kennedy thus leaving the balance at 49-40 again...then Scott Brown was elected leaving it at a final 59-41. And out of those 59 only 5 voted against the Dream act while the majority of the republicans voted against it as well.

And who can run a successful primary campaign against OBama and then go on to defeat the GOP candidate? No one. Let me make it clear for you, even if someone like Jon Huntsman, a moderate Republican who has supported us in the past, were to win the 2012 election, the Tea Party and the right wing of the GOP will make sure he fails in every way-that's just the current state of affairs. I unlike you, am optimistic, and i have more than a hunch that the Democrats will take back the House and will have enough people in the Senate to re-write the rules and ban the damn filibuster.
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08-10-2011, 09:15 AM
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I said they had a super majority in the House, not the Senate. All I'm saying is that things aren't looking good.
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08-14-2011, 03:25 AM
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Just because things are ugly doesn't mean one should give up. As cheesy as that sounds. The current political environment, believe it or not, might actually favor a swing to the left, as crazy as it sounds. Sticking to the Tea Party as desperately as Bachmann and the other GOP contenders have been doing will mean shooting themselves in the foot, especially when it comes to independent voters.

Perry and Romney have managed to be like Teflon throughout this mess; they'll bend and pander to the mob, but they aren't bowing like servants just yet. Both are businessmen at the core, and it's not good for business to lose out on hundreds of thousands of college-educated adults when structural unemployment is eating away at the American labor force.

What is true, however, is that Republican congressmen aren't as likely to be as successful in making people vote for them regardless of their actual beliefs. The DREAM Act is at risk if Democrats can't take a majority in the House and if they and their more social, compassionate conservative Republican friends can't take a supermajority in the Senate. But if the Tea Party keeps portraying itself as it is, it'll be interesting to see what comes of the whole show.
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