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E-Verify requirement must be part of larger immigration plan, Napolitano insists - Page 2

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09-06-2011, 12:09 PM
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If anyone in any of these forums has any exchange of words with those who actually make policy, should they actually debate this bill its time to ask that we not be eligible for grants, and financial aid and blah blah blah excluding private loans. If we take away these benefits from ourselves we cant be looked at as stealing from Americans. Right now the argument is if immigrants get that then Americans don't. Well i would rather have DA and no financial help then nothing which is what we currently have and will have till hell actually freezes over, unless we change the debate. Now that gives the GOP less to grovel about but its not a promise for DA at all, the next argument and you can quote me is that we will steal from the American job market. Lazy is lazy no matter what nation the passport but politicians don't see it that way. Asking for less appropriations in DA such as financial aid will give the bill some traction and some much needed national attention however i still believe in this economy this bill has absolutely no hope what so ever.
Now many in here will be upset that i said we should be asking for less, get over it. We aren't exactly willing to compromise much either, understood we don't have much to compromise with at all but financial assistance eligibility is one card in our hand we can risk getting rid of for the greater cause. Things we cant give up, the age max and min, the 0 criminal record requirement, the requirement to finish school or join the armed services. The only other card we have in our hand which we might consider giving up as well is the possibility of future citizenship. Ill take a life time green card over nothing any day.
Remember currently we have NOTHING, tomorrow we will have NOTHING, 10 years from now we will have guess what, NOTHING. If the talks happen again its time to be willing to negotiate the finer details which we as Dream beneficiaries can live without.
i agree with everything here. beggars can't be choosers. at the end of the day, i dont mind NOT being a US citizen or NOT obtaining financial aid. lemme just work, pay taxes and support my [future] family in the only country i know.
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Remember currently we have NOTHING, tomorrow we will have NOTHING, 10 years from now we will have guess what, NOTHING.
Let's make it clear. E-verify + Work permit + Driver License ONLY.

NO voting rights, NO financial aid. Nothing.
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09-06-2011, 01:17 PM
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The fact that Napolitano is issuing this statement points out that a possible debate on E-Verify is around the corner??????

Even bigger question...

DA User = Nostradamus????

only time will tell.
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The fact that Napolitano is issuing this statement points out that a possible debate on E-Verify is around the corner??????

Even bigger question...

DA User = Nostradamus????

only time will tell.
DA User also said DA will pass by this spring. More like DA User = Y2K
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09-06-2011, 11:41 PM
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DA user has made some outrageous claims in the past.
I don't really see anything immigration related getting done anytime soon due to the GOPs obsession to destroy the United States. Also Obama's approval rating is decreasing rapidly.
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DA user has made some outrageous claims in the past.
I don't really see anything immigration related getting done anytime soon due to the GOPs obsession to destroy the United States. Also Obama's approval rating is decreasing rapidly.
you ever notice that when you think you got everything figured out something fucked up happens, if you were right all the time youd be rich lol
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Once again, contact those you who can and urge them for a realistic approach. Something that will pass, it will help the democrats with their base and their promises, this kind of approach will also appease to the republicans, i mean its almost indentured servitude in the 21 century. Obama wont be bailing out "Aliens, illegals, or immigrants", attach border security to this proposal, dent us public benefits, charge us taxes, we cant sponsor our relatives as just green card holders unless its your spouse or children, and with a green card if you commit a felony your card can be taken away so it would keep us on the up and up and make serious crimes truly punishable. Lets actually meet somewhere in the middle and give DA a real try with a real approach and real demands not some outlandish hope to be equals to those who want nothing to do with us. In return we don't promise votes to either party cause were not citizens and this would be a bipartisan bill anyway because it would be a meeting of both sides on the same issue.
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Will Obama talk about the Dream Act in his speech?
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09-07-2011, 06:17 AM
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Let's make it clear. E-verify + Work permit + Driver License ONLY.

NO voting rights, NO financial aid. Nothing.
Add travel authorization to this and I actually wouldn't mind not being a PR/USC. And of course, you would be able to adjust your status and gain the right to vote, get financial aid, etc. once you marry a USC.
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I can't think of any logical reasoning behind why he would touch base on Immigration during his Job speech.

Has anyone read Hilda Solis' op-ed on Sunday the 4th? I've noticed that @BarackObama and @OFA_TX tweeted about the op-ed last night; two full days after the op-ed was published.

There could be two possible reasons behind the delay-

a) whitehouse staff were on vacation until Tuesday because of the Labor Day weekend. So the social media folks tweeted after they came back to work yesterday.

b) Obama plans to talk about Immigration during his Job speech so his people are prepping for it via social media outreach (this one may very well be one of my fantasies)

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