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Startup Act 2.0: House lawmakers introduce Senators’ immigration reform bill - Page 2

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06-06-2012, 02:01 PM
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You have to have at least a Master's for this?
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06-06-2012, 03:04 PM
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"Now, going over to our friend on the other aisle, Obama..."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That's a good one.

I warned eveyone that there were backroom deals, excuse me, "negotiations" to shelve any potential advancement of any immigration relief measure. Reid said the president promised him action early in his second term. Now, note that is Reid who has extracted the promise of action on our behalf, not Obama. It doesn't serve the Deporter-in-Chief's objectives. I think the reason Obama cannot issue an Executive Order as interim guidelines for relief from deportation while CIR is developed now is because he had his DOJ argue against it all the way up to the circuit court, saying that immigrants are bound by existing law, not by "future legislation nor speculation"

This is pretty significant because unless the cases are re-filed with the courts - at the expense of thousands of dollars to both immigrants and taxpayers- the administration has shot itself in the foot by arguing against "rootedness" as the basis for not pursuing deportation. Well, what immigrant living here for decades isn't rooted in America? What Dreamer growing up here isn't rooted in America? Rootedness is OUR argument and a legitimate one and the administration knows it.

Rootedness: The quality or state of having roots, especially of being firmly established, settled, or entrenched.

Now, maybe the super bright Obama campaign can come up with a formula that will allow us to "unroot" ourselves from America and American identity and then they can come back to court and say that you have no argument to stay in this country. Assholes.
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Fuck you Mr. President <^> (0_0) <^>.
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Also, this is an elitist piece of legislation where if you are a poor undocumented immigrant; but , a contributing and productive taxpayer of this country, the Obama administration wants nothing for you. The Democrats and Republicans are going out of their way to open the door and roll out the red carpet for anyone with money, even if they have only been in this country for 3 years.
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Well, this would be very good for international students who're having problems with getting jobs.
Well, one has to have a science and technology job to benefit under this bill.

For most of "Let's give green cards to STEM graduates", the employment in the field of study is mandatory, via the initial 28 month work permit.
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You have to have at least a Master's for this?
Yes. Depending on which version of many STEM degree green card bills introduced is voted, there could be a restriction on where the student graduated from(a federally designated research university) and must hold a job in the field of degree.
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Yeah, we don't qualify.
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I warned eveyone that there were backroom deals, excuse me, "negotiations" to shelve any potential advancement of any immigration relief measure. Reid said the president promised him action early in his second term. Now, note that is Reid who has extracted the promise of action on our behalf, not Obama. It doesn't serve the Deporter-in-Chief's objectives. I think the reason Obama cannot issue an Executive Order as interim guidelines for relief from deportation while CIR is developed now is because he had his DOJ argue against it all the way up to the circuit court, saying that immigrants are bound by existing law, not by "future legislation nor speculation"

This is pretty significant because unless the cases are re-filed with the courts - at the expense of thousands of dollars to both immigrants and taxpayers- the administration has shot itself in the foot by arguing against "rootedness" as the basis for not pursuing deportation.
Good reason to be angry. Not so good on the reasoning part. His DOJ always argues what it argues, and the President can reverse it at any time, just as the AG can reverse the BIA, no matter how much the DOJ says what it says. Obama can issue it. He just hasn't done it yet for political reasons. And we have yet to see how those will fully unfold in the months to come.
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Good reason to be angry. Not so good on the reasoning part. His DOJ always argues what it argues, and the President can reverse it at any time, just as the AG can reverse the BIA, no matter how much the DOJ says what it says. Obama can issue it. He just hasn't done it yet for political reasons. And we have yet to see how those will fully unfold in the months to come.
Of course they can reverse it and the immigration cases filed for re-hearing requesting prosecutorial discretion, blah, blah ,blah. The point is that it's a waste of resources again for both, immigrants and taxpayers, and an indication of poor leadership.
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Yeah, we don't qualify.
Not true. There are Dreamers who have Master's and some probably have Ph.D's.
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