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Breaking News: Richard Mourdock - Even pregnancy from rape something "God intended" - Page 2

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10-24-2012, 11:01 AM
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There's this Gandhi quote I really like it goes like this: “I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ.”

Other than that the Mourdock fellow is outta his flipping mind and I hope that no one especially women support him. This is the same reason why I believe religion should be kept behind closed doors especially when it comes to politics. Christians go around talking about their religion in public and they seem to forget that this is not a Christian nation but a Multi-Religion nation. Not only that but they claim to follow the word of the Almighty but I highly doubt God intends for someone to have a kid through such a horrific experience.

Something I'm also not a fan of is men thinking they 'know' what's best for women to do.
Killing a child because of being rape has nothing to do with religion. =p
I didn't read the article all the way through but I don't believe in getting an abortion for someone who was raped.
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10-24-2012, 11:14 AM
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Killing a child because of being rape has nothing to do with religion. =p
I didn't read the article all the way through but I don't believe in getting an abortion for someone who was raped.
How can you expect a woman to carry the product of something so horrendous as rape? They have to carry the child for almost a year being reminded constantly of being raped.

I'm not a woman but If I was, I'd want the option of an abortion if I chose to have one.
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10-24-2012, 11:28 AM
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Killing a child because of being rape has nothing to do with religion. =p
I didn't read the article all the way through but I don't believe in getting an abortion for someone who was raped.
I think abortions are scary. Just the thought of someone going through that gives me the chills but if they want to then why should I or anyone else take that away from them? Sure it's not the kid's fault the mother was raped but it's not her fault either. I believe there should be access to birth control in order to prevent abortions because they can be dangerous but when it comes to rape how/why would a women even imagine she'll go through that before it occurs? Just like how would he even know what God intends. This is the same for almost anything if you have not experienced it yourself you will not fully understand what's going through that person's mind so if a women wants to get an abortion then let her.

Btw when I was younger I use to claim I was pro-life but now my stance has changed since well I started going to college and my feminist professors have also influenced me. lol
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10-24-2012, 11:31 AM
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How can you expect a woman to carry the product of something so horrendous as rape? They have to carry the child for almost a year being reminded constantly of being raped.

I'm not a woman but If I was, I'd want the option of an abortion if I chose to have one.
How is that the child's fault? That's like saying we shouldn't support dream act because it was our parent fault for coming here illegally or staying over. I find that selfish. Just because we are in a situation, it is okay for us to get citizenship because we had no part in coming here but it is okay to punish the child just because of the rapist fault.


The rapist should be punished obviously, not the child.
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No, its not the childs fault but I don't believe life begins at conception so woman aren't aborting a child. I do believe there should be a limit to how far along in a pregnancy abortions are allowed, but that choice should still be on the table.

You can't compare this with the immigration debate. Our parents had a choice and ultimately we have a choice to stay or leave. And I can't agree to limiting the choice of a woman.

In a perfect world the rapist would be caught and punished, but the world is messy and limiting woman's choices does nothing but prolong the harm.
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I agree!! Why punish the kid for someone else doing?
No one is punishing no kid. Girls with similar situations like myself would like to make a choice for ourselves as to when we should have a child. And in the process of waiting for the right time if a douche bag comes to compromise that choice then it is appropriate to abort that child. Sorry to say it but that's how I feel.

You hear republicans always talking about being pro life but they are the same party that want to cut social assistance to single mothers. Also please know that being pro choice does not mean being pro abortion. Women simply want the right in making decisions concerning their body parts (uterus).
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I think abortions are scary. Just the thought of someone going through that gives me the chills but if they want to then why should I or anyone else take that away from them? Sure it's not the kid's fault the mother was raped but it's not her fault either. I believe there should be access to birth control in order to prevent abortions because they can be dangerous but when it comes to rape how/why would a women even imagine she'll go through that before it occurs? Just like how would he even know what God intends. This is the same for almost anything if you have not experienced it yourself you will not fully understand what's going through that person's mind so if a women wants to get an abortion then let her.

Btw when I was younger I use to claim I was pro-life but now my stance has changed since well I started going to college and my feminist professors have also influenced me. lol
I am a feminist myself. lmao. but when it comes to children, I don't know. I just can't stand the thought of someone else making poor decision on behalf of someone who is voiceless and vulnerable. If rape victims are given choice to abort, then every woman will be given the same options. These young hoochies who spread their legs in first place then cry when they found out they are pregnant..and get abortion. ( my friend got a abortion, I definitely didn't support her decision and have lost alot of respect for her. Just because she didn't want to be confronted by her parents, she killed a child. I guess there will always be ppl who will abuse the system.

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No, its not the childs fault but I don't believe life begins at conception so woman aren't aborting a child. I do believe there should be a limit to how far along in a pregnancy abortions are allowed, but that choice should still be on the table.

You can't compare this with the immigration debate. Our parents had a choice and ultimately we have a choice to stay or leave. And I can't agree to limiting the choice of a woman.

In a perfect world the rapist would be caught and punished, but the world is messy and limiting woman's choices does nothing but prolong the harm.
Okay, so everyone has a choice, but the kid. I bet if the kid was alive, and had a choice, he would have said NO mommy don't kill me. but that never happens because the kid is dead. I just think people abuse the system regardless just like any other system.
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No one is punishing no kid. Girls with similar situations like myself would like to make a choice for ourselves as to when we should have a child. And in the process of waiting for the right time if a douche bag comes to compromise that choice then it is appropriate to abort that child. Sorry to say it but that's how I feel.

You hear republicans always talking about being pro life but they are the same party that want to cut social assistance to single mothers. Also please know that being pro choice does not mean being pro abortion. Women simply want the right in making decisions concerning their body parts (uterus).
Well, not to sound rude and I apologize if I do since this is a personal thing for you but there are always preventive measures that can be taken or have sex after marriage if the person is not a rape victim.

Rape victims can give up their kid to a gay family or people who are having hard time having kids. I always connected pro choice to pro abortion. I mean people who want that option because they would most likely abort.
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I am a feminist myself. lmao. but when it comes to children, I don't know. I just can't stand the thought of someone else making poor decision on behalf of someone who is voiceless and vulnerable. If rape victims are given choice to abort, then every woman will be given the same options. These young hoochies who spread their legs in first place then cry when they found out they are pregnant..and get abortion. ( my friend got a abortion, I definitely didn't support her decision and have lost alot of respect for her. Just because she didn't want to be confronted by her parents, she killed a child. I guess there will always be ppl who will abuse the system.
See, that's why I use to be pro-life. I thought it was extremely unfair that the baby would never get to live just because someone made a careless "mistake". (this has nothing to do with rape victims I believed and still believe they should be able to have that choice) I also used to think that cause I thought those women are having abortions when there's other women out there wishing they could have children but simply can't. But now I simply believe people should have that choice and yes there should be access to birth control pills, sex education, condoms, all of that because some women are not even women at all yet they're little girls and they shouldn't be going through that. Having a child is a blessing but it is also a huge responsibility one many don't know how to handle so well.

Btw whenever I say I'm a feminist some people are like say what? Haha especially guys. Some people still think being a feminist means you are a woman who hates men oh and that you're a lesbian. lmfao When feminists can be either a man or a woman gay or not.

Oh and I'm not pro abortion either. I hope to never be put into such a situation where I would want to have one.
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I am a feminist myself. lmao. but when it comes to children, I don't know. I just can't stand the thought of someone else making poor decision on behalf of someone who is voiceless and vulnerable. If rape victims are given choice to abort, then every woman will be given the same options. These young hoochies who spread their legs in first place then cry when they found out they are pregnant..and get abortion. ( my friend got a abortion, I definitely didn't support her decision and have lost alot of respect for her. Just because she didn't want to be confronted by her parents, she killed a child. I guess there will always be ppl who will abuse the system.


Okay, so everyone has a choice, but the kid. I bet if the kid was alive, and had a choice, he would have said NO mommy don't kill me. but that never happens because the kid is dead. I just think people abuse the system regardless just like any other system.
I disagree completely here, not every female that gets an abortion is a "hoochy" lol. All women get abortions: some are college girls, married women, some even have wonderful careers. I for sure do not want "the system" up in my bedroom telling me when to be intimate with my man or what to do with my v jay jay or uterus.....yucccck!!!!!!!
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