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01-16-2013, 03:49 PM
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To being USC is just diffrent mean to it, if we are paying same amount of taxes, if we are human, if we are to follow same sets of rules and regulation then why we got be 2nd class citizen for life?.
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01-16-2013, 03:58 PM
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To being USC is just diffrent mean to it, if we are paying same amount of taxes, if we are human, if we are to follow same sets of rules and regulation then why we got be 2nd class citizen for life?.
Exactly and perhaps they might say oh all those dreamers will be able to become citizens. But what about our relatives, neighbors and people who age out of the dream act? Why must there be a 2nd class?
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01-16-2013, 04:15 PM
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It doesn't matter what McCain or Rubio thinks.

It matters what the 51st House Republican thinks!

Dems should fight for citizenship, but if they cannot get their way, a compromise is in order.
Yes sir. I think you meant Senators. Well the thing is, in the Senate they will need 60 votes for cloture (in 2010 DA got 55 thus being murdered by 5 missing votes) and then a simple majority to pass the bill. Regardless, I get the feeling the leadership is there in the Senate. The Senate is where this new CIR push will get birth. It's going to be debated there first. I firmly expect it to pass because some of these GOP senators are genuine so far with the compromise except for Rubio. The main struggle and fireworks will be in the House for sure. Can't wait. GOP cornered me thinks.
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I noticed that every time an article has 1-2 paragraphs regarding all the great achievements of the author, you know the author is a massive piece of shit. It's like he needs reinforcement that he is not in fact a massive turd, he's just more disadvantaged than everyone else and the whole world is mean.
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01-16-2013, 04:18 PM
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If you tell GOP you want citizenship you may just get legalization (and maybe a long path to citizenship)
If you tell GOP you just want legalization all you get is DACA.
If you tell GOP all you want is DACA all you have is more border security and more deportations.
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If anything like this does pass the House, it will not pass in the Senate without Democrats adding amendments. Democrats will NOT compromise on this issue.
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01-17-2013, 09:43 AM
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No..I am dead sure CIR will pass with a path to citizenship. The major Republicans known to have worked on CIR in the past like McCain, Graham, and a few others are in full support. Marco Rubio is the only thorn in this battle. I'm afraid he is gathering some major steam. Before it gets too late, Obama needs to move VERY quickly and get this shit done. It's not going to be as tough as in previous years. Seriously you can't just give 11 million + people DACA like status only. It has to be a full fledged solution. I think its a done deal on arrival in the Senate. Boehner and Cantor will create problems in the House. But I think the Senate leaders can compromise with Boehner to allow a bill like this in his chamber. Like I said, the only person here who is not genuine is Marco Rubio. Everything tells me he is playing a major betrayal game.
I hope you are right,as you can see Americans love their guns,and hate foreigners.Unfortunately American's believe this is "THEIR" COUNTRY.. Obama not only has to appeal to Republicans ,but also to his own Democratic party remember the DA failed in the house because a number of Democrats voted against it..All I know is when this battle starts it will separate the Men/Women from the boys/girls ..it also has to be introduced immediately..All I hope for is that this so called Gang of Eight have set forth a real outline to immigration reform & that the 4 republicans are serious about getting their party on board...Now will everyone be happy NO..let's face it this will be the battle of the Century !!!!!
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