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Broad Outlines of Senate Immigration Agreement Emerge - Page 2

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04-10-2013, 06:28 PM
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It still requires a trigger to be in place, before you can even apply for TPS. This plan is set up to fail. No wonder everybody has been quiet about it. The Dems really want the Pres's plan, and you mark my words, that memo that circulated that had June, 2013 as a target date for "registration" of the undocumented *without* legislation.

Its not "set up to fail". What are you talking about?
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04-10-2013, 06:57 PM
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All advocacy and labor groups oppose a "trigger" mandate *before* legalization, as does the President. As do, I'm sure, the undocumented and their citizen relatives. It's going to build opposition if people cannot legalize until this trigger is met and people aren't protected from deportation.

Then the Dems can put any plan up for a vote just to show who's for or against it; politics. I hope I'm wrong, but the pols seem not too worried.
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04-10-2013, 08:12 PM
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The trigger is before any type of legalization at all?

I was thinking this trigger would be something before a GC...

Like dtrt mentioned, what happens when you wait 6 months for legalization trigger and then have to wait to actually get approved...is that added on top of the 10 years making it more like 11-12 years before GC?

...wow...wtf...

Well, let us see what unfolds.
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Oh goodie.. triggers based on some unquantifiable secure borders metric.
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04-10-2013, 08:34 PM
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Anyone noticed this part?

Under the legislation, illegal immigrants who pass background checks and meet other requirements will have to wait in a provisional status for 10 years, during which time they would be allowed to work and travel but not to remain permanently, before they could apply for green cards.

So do they boot us out every now and then and allow us back in after a couple of weeks?...lol...

Although it could just be describing the 10 years status I suppose, I would figure the 10 years leads into GC anyway so why mention the 10 year status not being permanent...
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So do they boot us out every now and then and allow us back in after a couple of weeks?...lol...
I think it meant we are not to be remained in that other country, for example, you can visit Mexico but can not stay there indefinitely and still thinks you can come back whenever you felt like it.
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Under the legislation, illegal immigrants who pass background checks and meet other requirements will have to wait in a provisional status for 10 years, during which time they would be allowed to work and travel but not to remain permanently, before they could apply for green cards.

TRAVEL as in internationally or just domestically?
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04-10-2013, 09:26 PM
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What happened to dream act on steroids? :P
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Journalists really don't know how to report. They just spew out what was fed to them.
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Very good observations. I'm someone like you that has been here for a long time. The timelime below is my daugthers'. The other issue I anticipate is Social Security, I have and a lot of people I imagine, been paying in for a numbers of years, will those years count or contributions will be lost? what about the 10 "TPS" years, will those count for SS? I guess we will learn more as the actual bill is fully disclosed.


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This means TPS for 10 yrs, then five yrs as a Green Card holder, then five yrs for citizenship, if so wished. 20 year-wait for citizenship. I have been here for 24 yrs.

I've aged out of DACA; I hope they remove the age-cap for DREAM beneficiaries, since the number of aged-out DREAM beneficiaries keeps dwindling down, and there are few of us compared the rest of the undocumented population at large, it doesn't serve any purpose to exclude us, it doesn't reduce backlogs, improve national security, etc.

No one can be granted temporary status until the border security-trigger plan is in place, but deportations won't be stopped either??? What is this? Assuming this even passes, six months later they need to present the plan, then put it into place, then we can apply for TPS???? When? 2 years from now??

And what happens in January, 2014 when ACA goes into full effect if I'm still without status? I have been able to purchase my own health insurance for 18 yrs, and now that the Dems are in charge, I will be treated as a criminal.
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