JUST IN: Supreme Court Makes NO Decision on Affirmative Action, Sends Case Back to Lo - Page 2

Happyman, you need to read up on how affirmative action policies actually work. What you described is a quota system, and it is illegal.

Here's another misconception. Affirmative action policies actually has helped white men the most.

Affirmative Action policies has helped the Asian American community combat discrimination as well which is why the majority of Asian Americans support Affirmative Action.

AA had its place but not anymore. Now you have schools like Texas guaranteeing those in the top 10% to get in. It doesn't matter if it's black, white, or "other".

Likewise, diversity and competitiveness are not mutually exclusive concepts.

AA should no longer have place in our society. Ive seen far too many underqualified "unrepresented" minorities get into grad schools and top tier schools while others who have better credentials are immediately rejected.

AA should abandon the idea of race and look to give more opportunities to those that are economically disadvantaged.

In the next 5 years, more than 50% of children born will be minority, which means that they should now be the majority.

Well AA is a much needed requirement in the US..MAN on man how quickly we forget about discrimination..xenophobia is alive and well..let us see in the next couple of months the racism that will be spilled out over this CIR bill..maybe u will be applying for admission to a college and or job, and your status will count against you..after all our ss cards have DHS WORK AUTHRORAZATION ONLY written across them..if that's not singling you out I don't know what is...I finding this forum to be quite racist ...

You don't know what you're talking about, I'm so disappointed to read comments like yours on this issue. You speak like someone that has no real world experience or as a new immigrant that hasn't really lived in America. Are you kidding me? Here's another way to look at it, even with affirmative action in place, when applying for jobs, if you have a name that ''sounds different,'' SOMETIMES your resume can get passed over or people may already stereotype you before meeting you. There are so many opportunities that minorities will be denied if affirmative action did not exist, it is necessary. Please think before writing poorly informed junk on this website, you're making us look clueless.

So on account of you possibly not being able to get into a certain school because other kids scored higher than you, Affirmative Action should be ended? Are you serious? Did you apply to other schools? Work harder? And so on, I mean some kids got in right? Affirmative Action also helps in the workplace where I'm sure you could benefit from it, so don't be so quick to rule it out. Please educate yourself on Affirmative Action. I'm sure one day it won't be needed, but we're not there yet.

To everyone here that doesn't support Affirmative Action, do you also believe that all Americans and non-Americans in this country are 100% capable of not thinking less highly or rejecting someone because of their religion or the color of their skin? Do you truly believe we currently live in a country where EVERYONE is capable of giving someone a fair chance or not judging someone because of how they look? Until you can say with confidence that we live in a country completely free of racism and the barriers that tend to keep certain groups out of positions of power, then I believe affirmative action should stay.
Affirmative action in college admissions ensures that we build a society where certain groups don't completely dominate certain positions. It seems unfair if you are in a group that tends to out perform, but considering this country's history of institutionalized racism, I think it's right to have systems in place to help reverse the effects of long term racial injustice.

I dont think i can ever get tired of talking about why race based AA is terrible lol.

I understand the point youre trying to make, but this is a completely separate issue. You can be Asian, White, Hispanic, Black, German etc.. Not have LPR or USC status and ALL of them will be discriminated for a job. With race based affirmative action, it depends on the color of your skin / whether or not you can prove you belong to an "unrepresented minority"...But are blacks and hispanics really "unrepresented"? Yes, historically, they have been. But they arent anymore. I can understand if it was still applied to native americans. I should have clarified before and said that i am against RACE based affirmative action, but i honestly believe affirmative action policies for those who are economically disadvantaged makes MUCH more sense and is a MUCH better idea.


To your first statement...I think you have it a little mixed up. Its PROVEN statistic that some ethnic groups need to score 100-200 points (varies by test, 100-200 on SAT here) than other "minority" groups. Yes, its wrong. Especially when that "minority" group isnt disadvantaged. Take it from someone who has worked in both high school and college admissions offices. Thats what A.A USED to do. But no longer. Race based affirmative action is wrong on countless levels. Maybe it wasnt wrong before, but today its totally unnecessary. We are DEFINITELY past the day where race based affirmative action isnt needed. The only reason you dont see it now is because those minorities are currently in higher education, getting the opportunities waiting to fill the top positions in the next decade.

Basically to all this, I will say that before the notion of being free of racism even begins to scratch the surface of any lobes that are part of the human brain, anything and everything associated with race needs to be eliminated. That includes race based affirmative action. Look at people you see in office today that are old compared to ones that are young (and im only looking at government, forget public and private sectors, major institutions etc...). You might see all old white people. But thats why AA was created, to give some sense of balance and diversity. Diversity is definitely coming, and it will be here soon. In the next decade is my estimate.


All Race based programs should end and opportunities should be given to people who come from economically disadvantaged backgrounds. Why should a 5th generation Cuban from Florida, who lives in a 10 million dollar mansion in Coral Gables with great access to education and endless cash flow be given priority in a college admissions process over an asian kid who lives in the inner city projects in new york?

can I get a summary of whats going on here