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Video of Senators voting. Dreamers interrupt at the end. - Page 2

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Sime dreamers are pissing me off. I feel "some" are entitled. Heres the vid

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/3511664


Jesus the least we want is attention damn these attention whores.
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Wow....I'm ashamed to be a dreamer....I'd rather be an illegal right now
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Passing immigration reform is akin to a civil rights issue and is a historic moment in our lives and those of our parents. This was not a big deal if some people felt empowered and applauded "Yes we can!" for about 2 seconds. But now the fight in the House starts and that energy will have to be channeled there.
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Passing immigration reform is akin to a civil rights issue
Not even close.
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das why we can't have nice stuff.
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Not even close.
Immigrants shouldn't be relegated to a second-class social position because of their birthplace any more than should any native-born person because of the color of his or her skin. Undocumented immigrants are demonized, blamed for a lot of problems, are at the bottom rung, and live in fear of deportation. The parallel is not exact, of course, but as Sen. Robert Menendez said, it is the "civil rights issue of our time."

The struggle to get Senate passage has been tremendous so cut them a little slack if they felt cheerful.
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Immigrants shouldn't be relegated to a second-class social position because of their birthplace any more than should any native-born person because of the color of his or her skin. Undocumented immigrants are demonized, blamed for a lot of problems, are at the bottom rung, and live in fear of deportation. The parallel is not exact, of course, but as Sen. Robert Menendez said, it is the "civil rights issue of our time."

The struggle to get Senate passage has been tremendous so cut them a little slack if they felt cheerful.
I hate to play devil's advocate on this issue, but this isn't about legal immigrants being treated as second class citizens, this is about "illegal immigrants". By coming here undocumented, they knew what they were getting into when they decided to break the law. You can't illegally trespass onto another person's house without permission and use their kitchen, bedrooms, bathrooms and live there in hiding and not to live in fear of being caught and expect to be forgiven when you're caught by the owners.
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Immigrants shouldn't be relegated to a second-class social position because of their birthplace any more than should any native-born person because of the color of his or her skin. Undocumented immigrants are demonized, blamed for a lot of problems, are at the bottom rung, and live in fear of deportation. The parallel is not exact, of course, but as Sen. Robert Menendez said, it is the "civil rights issue of our time."

The struggle to get Senate passage has been tremendous so cut them a little slack if they felt cheerful.
When the Vice President of the United States, the same guy who's on your side has to tell you to shut up because you're interrupting the United States Senate, you've crossed a line.
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I hate to play devil's advocate on this issue, but this isn't about legal immigrants being treated as second class citizens, this is about "illegal immigrants". By coming here undocumented, they knew what they were getting into when they decided to break the law. You can't illegally trespass onto another person's house without permission and use their kitchen, bedrooms, bathrooms and live there in hiding and not to live in fear of being caught and expect to be forgiven when you're caught by the owners.
I don't get these people. They forget the principle here. They forget whether they like it or not they are here with out authorization. They get so caught up thinking how they are the blacks of the 60s they don't realize these people had something we don't have. They were being denied rights they got when they were born here. These people were lynched, burned and hated , the civil rights was a historical thing. To some extent. This cir is sort historic but it isn't like it never has happened before. Nothing like the civil rights had happened before it.
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I don't get these people. They forget the principle here. They forget whether they like it or not they are here with out authorization. They get so caught up thinking how they are the blacks of the 60s they don't realize these people had something we don't have. They were being denied rights they got when they were born here. These people were lynched, burned and hated , the civil rights was a historical thing. To some extent. This cir is sort historic but it isn't like it never has happened before. Nothing like the civil rights had happened before it.
Of course undocumented immigrants are not being lynched, but the level of opposition for parity (i.e., legalization) is very strong in the red states, just as the level for parity between black and whites was back then. Of course we are here without authorization whether we like it or not, and for us Dreamers that was not a decision we did, just as being born black is not a decision children do. And yet, we are being punished for it, not physically punished like in the 60's, but nonetheless punished. Just because it's not physical doesn't mean it doesn't affect people as much.
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