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Which PAC, "nonprofit" or Democratic campaign(s) do you volunteer or work for?
I didn't volunteer, but I donate money to help democrats in my state to win.
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I didn't volunteer, but I donate money to help democrats in my state to win.
Ask for your money back
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Why? I do like having more Democrats in the House and Senate They are not the best, but we don't really have a choice.
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I agree with MIdreamer. Having a republican majority in both chambers is dangerous.
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Law passed house to stop DACA
Republicans take the senate
Senate passes same law to make a statement.
Things can change rather quickly.

That's logical thinking. But I rather have Obama go big and whatever happens happens. It'd be nice to see my parents get a work permit, even if it might be taken away.
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Someone confirm this for me:

Would we need an act of congress to extend H1-B eligibility to DREAMers and DACA recipients?
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Why? I do like having more Democrats in the House and Senate They are not the best, but we don't really have a choice.
isnt illegal to donate money to them if you are here illegally
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isnt illegal to donate money to them if you are here illegally
I'm fully aware of that, I have been in this forum for 4 years. I made my sister register to vote and had her donate money for me. I also encourage my roommate to vote, every little effort matters.
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That's illegal. We can't donate money to political causes.
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I agree with MIdreamer. Having a republican majority in both chambers is dangerous.
Picture this:

Law passed house to stop DACA
Republicans take the senate
Senate passes same law to make a statement.
Things can change rather quickly.

That's logical thinking. But I rather have Obama go big and whatever happens happens. It'd be nice to see my parents get a work permit, even if it might be taken away.
That scenario will never happen. The house passed the bill to end DACA in order to pass the border bill. The GOP's leadership team in the house originally had a bill preventing any new applications to DACA as a way to get ahead of Obama's pending executive action. This original bill and the border bill were set to be voted on Thursday. However, because of the power structure in the house, once the far right of the GOP's wing refused to vote for the border bill Bohener pulled the bill. The Tea Party has the upper hand in forcing votes since if just a few of them go against leadership then nothing will pass since the Democrats are sticking together and voting no.

Therefore, in order to save face (remember that the House voted to sue Obama Wednesday for use of executive action, then failed to pass their own bill Thursday and released a statement saying that Obama needs to use executive action) the leadership absolutely needed to pass that border bill unless they would look like asses. The Tea Party knew this and got A LOT of Concessions from Leadership which included ending DACA.

However, this bill is completely symbolic as EVERYONE knows its DOA in the senate. The GOP in the Senate have much more to lose than those house republicans in gerrymandered districts. Statewide and national elections are a lot different.

If you think Senate Republicans (which are much more the Establishment wing of The GOP) are willing to go the route of house republicans, ask yourself why they haven't yet? Of course they have Ted Cruz who's just a tool, but remember that the Senate passed CIR and that ONLY happened because the GOP ALLOWED it to happen.
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I don't know; there's something weird in all this back and forth - either there are deportation cases that are going to make this administration look really bad if known (publicly) or they are just testing the political winds and milking the situation for all they can. I agree with the previous poster, the GOP's vote to end DACA was symbolic and done to save face. It's going nowhere near the President.
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