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04-18-2016, 05:15 PM
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What? That they know the law well and are just testing the lawyers?
I won't hypothesize what they are doing.....but Justice Roberts is inaccurate afaik.

Lawfully present is legally present. It is legal presence that does not confer lawful presence. Visas, Immigrant visas and Citizenship confer lawful presence because that is what the status confers.

In fact, this is why when you fall out of status you cannot change status within the country. A person lawfully present can change status, but those with DACA who are legally present cannot. It just shows how complicated the issue really is when even our highest court doesn't know the laws.
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Solicitor General Verrilli on whether deferred action folks could sue an employer who refuses to hire them based on their status (page 86 of the transcript):

"Now, Justice Alito, you raised a couple of points I want to get to with some specifics. You asked about whether an employee with a deferred action work authorization could sue if an employer refused to hire. I would direct Your Honor to 8 U.S.C. 1324b. Actually, Congress has determined the situations in which an employee -- well, with -- an alien with work authorization has a discrimination claim and when the employee doesn't. That statute says if you're a lawful public resident, you do. Deferred action is on the side where you don't."

Kind of rough when the side defending DAPA says things like that. Also, I think he is wrong.
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Live. Going on outside.

The solicitors for both sides spoke earlier, as well as Steven King, who didn't seem optimistic.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?408356-...l-argument&vod
That is good! Actually, Roberts seems to side with Obama's EO after what was explained. 5-3 in our favor?
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Live. Going on outside.

The solicitors for both sides spoke earlier, as well as Steven King, who didn't seem optimistic.

http://www.c-span.org/video/?408356-...l-argument&vod
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What? That they know the law well and are just testing the lawyers?
All political game! Of course, they know.
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I won't hypothesize what they are doing.....but Justice Roberts is inaccurate afaik.

Lawfully present is legally present. It is legal presence that does not confer lawful presence. Visas, Immigrant visas and Citizenship confer lawful presence because that is what the status confers.

In fact, this is why when you fall out of status you cannot change status within the country. A person lawfully present can change status, but those with DACA who are legally present cannot. It just shows how complicated the issue really is when even our highest court doesn't know the laws.
Great just great
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Ahhg I'm losing hope
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The sad part from my selfish point of view is none of them ever mentioned extended DACA.
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So who here understands what's going on because I don't know anymore.

Yeah they didn't but I think these people are mixing in dapa and exetended DACA as one
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The sad part from my selfish point of view is none of them ever mentioned extended DACA.
This isn't about DACA exactly. This is about whether Texas and other 25 states have the right to sue.
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Worst case scenario supreme court says no and we say goodbye to DACA, eDACA & DAPA and we all get deported when trump wins. God forbid.
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