Speaker Paul Ryan On The “100 Days” Ahead - Page 2

Giving them the satisfaction of securing the border increases our chances of getting anything passed that would benefit us.

Agreed, Bush attempted to do enforcement so he may get a reform package, but nothing happened. Democrats are NOT going to give Trump a "win" with major legislation. This will be another do-nothing congress on immigration while Trump administratively implements his agenda, immigration included!

You just have to look at the incoming administration's picks for Secretary.

1. DHS secretary choice, a former-general, but one who oversaw Gitmo! Think specialization in detention

2. Attorney General pick....Sessions. Nuff said!

This is where you are wrong. Republicans didn't trust Bush to secure the border either but they definitely trust Trump to do it. Also, back then millions of dreamers hadn't come out of the shadows and given their information to the federal government. Democrats definitely have an incentive to compromise this time around for our sakes. I admire your pessimism but you'll definitely be proven wrong on this issue. Just watch!

Btw, you don't know enough about General Kelly in regards to the immigration issue to come to the conclusion that he is a bad pick. The fact that Kobach wasn't picked is definitely a good thing.

Instead of focusing on if someone is wrong, you should focus more on your own facts. I am pessimistic on the incoming administration's policies, views, and secretary choices! So again, I will explain my side with the facts. Stop the selective reading!

1.Bush was more focused on terrorism, rather than immigration. Yeah, there was that thing called 9/11. He was re-elected on it. Immigration reform passed in the Senate under Bush, but Hastert's majority of the majority rule prevented legislation from coming to the House floor....it wasn't "trust" as you alluded to! Many news outlets believed legislation could have passed if it was simply allowed a floor vote. Even Republican hardliners at the time did as well, they feared it. Tancredo's house group led the charge and it(CIR) failed!

2.I have been around since the early COSA days. It was NOT millions of dreamers that ushered in DACA! It was a few dedicated Dreamer groups that made their case to both the Republican(Senator Rubio) and Democrat side(president Obama) to see what was possible. In fact, it was the actions of the many dedicated dreamers who asked for Deferred Action during the Bush Administration that what made this possible!!!!! It did not happen overnight! It was their actions that made it possible. If you met many of them in person, you would understand that!

3.Democrats lost the election, what exactly is their incentive to compromise? Republicans didn't when they lost the Congress and simply stonewalled and look how it has worked for them now. There is an extent to which they are willing to bend, but the Democrats have limits you fail to see. Even Schumer indicated he was willing to stonewall until a Democrat President is elected for the justice choice. You can only negotiate so much where it starts to violate party principles, and both party's principles are stark. I am under no illusion that they do not have to "negotiate"!!!!

4.FACT...I NEVER said General Kelly was a bad pick...selective reading again. I said he was the general over a controversial detention center, GITMO. Which is true!

5. Secure Communities focuses on the automatic detainment of any undocumented whose are fingerprints are taken at the local level. The incoming President has indicated from his own mouth he wants to go back to that.

6. Senator Sessions believes in "Muslim Ban". This man will be head of the justice department and represents the government's position on if something is legal or not.

There is no incentive for them to pass sweeping CIR when they won on a xenophobic nationalist message. Our only hope is to be included as dreamers on some border security package in order for them to avoid some messy PR.

This is the only way I see democrats and republicans compromising. Already, trump is turning away from immigration as his top priority. He's gonna be the puppet president of billionaires.

Look guys border security is already good. These people are gonna play the same card they did back in 2013 to have a good excuse as to why not bring a bill. Make border secured first -but how long is his gonna take ?

I don't think anyone is under the illusion that a sweeping CIR bill is going to pass. My argument is some form of relief for dreamers is more likely to go through this time around than before.

The border isn't secured as much as it could be . Just take a look at all the unaccompanied minors that were able to pour across the border in the last few years.

And look how most of them were detained and return back home. You guys are falling into the republican mindset. Make border secured first then pass a bill. Again the same reason why the house never wanted to bring forth a bill inside. Yet they never bother to vote
Or even talk about a border security bill themselves. So I am not going to fall into the "let's make America secure first wagon" everyone seems to be jumping into.

Yes, I am. If you vote for the candidate that says racist things, then as far as I am concerned you are a racist.