US immigrant stripped of 'dreamer' status in part over alleged gang tattoo - Page 2

Originally Posted by a.martin3z

Read this on the Washington Times.

"But gang members aren’t eligible for the program, and the government says Mr. Ramirez not only had a gang tattoo, but said he used to “hang out” with the Sureno gang in California, fled that state to get away from gangs, and but still “hangs out” with the Paizas gang in Washington.

The government said his approval under the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA, policy has been revoked and he is now in deportation proceedings."

Originally Posted by JohannBernoulli1667

Agree! Harsh, but the reality is that Daniel is not a dreamer.

Dreamers pursue education, or build businesses and pursue the American dream.

It sounds harsh but DACA should have at the very minimum a requirement of some education beyond high school, whether this is trade school, community college or Trump University is irrelevant.

As much as I want to sympathize with Daniel. He does not represent us.

I know it sounds harsh, but the dreamer movement is not about becoming a regular member of society. Dreamers do not cross their arms and conform, they do not act like gangsters, we do not do drugs or drive under the influence.


That is not why we ask for relief from deportation. We ask for relief because we want to make a difference.

We want to be business owners, educators, doctors, scientists, engineers etc...

We shoot to work at the top of our game, we work overtime to be able to afford tuition.



Sometimes I feel we all forget about our purpose, the dream.


Yesterday I had a real good conversation with many of my fellow engineer dreamers, great people, different views.

Daniel deserves to be deported. It was made very clear from the beginning that there would be no tolerance. The election was lost. There are consequences.


I will not defend that guy. I feel bad for him, his family failed him, his community failed him. At the end of the day he made decisions that led him to be stripped from his DACA.

Do I feel that ICE violated his rights of privacy etc... sure but it is not an excuse.


With that said, Donald Trump today acknowledged him during the press conference. I am glad he was bold enough to say, the great majority of dreamers are good people.

There are exceptions and he is right.

I am not a Trump supporter but I agree with his statement.

Originally Posted by dreamer12345

Guilty by association I see. What a fuking embarrassment this administration is.

Originally Posted by dreamer12345

Guilty by association I see. What a fuking embarrassment this administration is.

Originally Posted by complicatedc33

But, didn't you once say that not all dreamers can apply for college? That they are not even allowed to enroll? .........Lets not get carried away on what ICE said about this young man. If he was hanging out with the wrong crowd then so be it. There is no need to throw stones at him. It's already hard enough for him as it is. He has a child by the way. No need to bash him. He lost DACA over a tattoo, and prying of these ICE men.