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‘Dreamer’ to deliver Spanish Dem response to Trump's First Presidential Address. - Page 2

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02-25-2017, 05:05 PM
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Trump has not made that distinction. A mother trying to work to support her family has the same level of deportation priority as a gang member with Trump's new rules.
Let's be fair. In rhetoric, he has. In practice NOT SO MUCH (We still have DACA, so no distinctions, SWIM?????), the new order and the front-level agents have not. It's important that she address these facts in her speech--not come off with "Trump is hitler" crap.
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“President Trump would have people believe that all immigrants are criminals and that refugees are terrorists. But like my family, the vast majority of immigrants and refugees came to this country escaping poverty and conflict, looking for a better life and the opportunity to reach the American Dream,” she said.

She is sort of right.
Vast majority of Trump supporters think we immigrants are a bunch of criminals living out of government aid, which is not truth.

I really don't think that will be negative, if she can give a good delivery of her story, and the story of her parents, I don't think Trump and Republicans will be tips off. The worst can happen to us is other DACAmented people committing crimes and getting caught with drugs.
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yeah I am not sure why dreamers are so quick to turn on other dreamers as soon they learn the deportee had some removal order
If a dreamer has a removal order because he or she stole or murdered someone, he or she deserves to be deported. Period. You have no business defending someone who victimized somebody, unless you are a damn public defender.

However, you do NOT deserve to be deported for a minor traffic violation, for using a fake SSN number, or because you were simply arrested for being at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Yes, many innocent undocumented immigrants have been deported lately. The point is she needs to be fair in her speech. If she goes off with that far left crap (Trump is a racist, modern nazi), we are all royally screwed. If you are ok with that, by all means support that type of speech. If do not get anything because one stupid speech, I will see you in hell.
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“President Trump would have people believe that all immigrants are criminals and that refugees are terrorists. But like my family, the vast majority of immigrants and refugees came to this country escaping poverty and conflict, looking for a better life and the opportunity to reach the American Dream,” she said.

She is sort of right.
Vast majority of Trump supporters think we immigrants are a bunch of criminals living out of government aid, which is not truth.

I really don't think that will be negative, if she can give a good delivery of her story, and the story of her parents, I don't think Trump and Republicans will be tips off. The worst can happen to us is other DACAmented people committing crimes and getting caught with drugs.
She needs to stick to facts. She needs to be careful in terms of how she writes her speech. She needs to be very specific.

"Trump would have people believe that all immigrants" <---This is not totally accurate. Obviously, we still have DACA. He has said that only criminals will go. That's not happening now. So what's happening Trump????? She needs to incorporate both. That's all I am saying.
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So, it's going to be in Spanish? My Spanish is not great, so I hope there's an English translation somewhere.
Why isn't it in English? Seems like a better way to avoid confusion.
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dumb idea. we get nothing from being confrontational with Trump. DACA is still alive.
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Trump has not made that distinction. A mother trying to work to support her family has the same level of deportation priority as a gang member with Trump's new rules.
The mother you refer to was convicted of identity theft. How can you justify that?
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The mother you refer to was convicted of identity theft. How can you justify that?
I was not referring to a specific mother, I was referring to a mother in general (ie: only 'crime' committed is working without authorization).
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I was not referring to a specific mother, I was referring to a mother in general (ie: only 'crime' committed is working without authorization).
my parents work without authorization and they make a living and nobody has caught them yet.
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I was not referring to a specific mother, I was referring to a mother in general (ie: only 'crime' committed is working without authorization).
Swim, we need to be fair. Yes, our parents are at risk under the new order, but we still have DACA. She technically cannot say Trump views all immigrants as criminals because we are still here. The only thing she should say is that we need more relief and our parents need protection.
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