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Trump boosts Dreamer approvals as DACA deadline passes. - Page 2

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You fail to realize that Democrats refuse to get a better deal because they refuse to use their leverage on the issue. Logically, Trump will try to milk the shit out of Democrats if they put themselves in a weak position, which they did by giving up all their leverage on spending.

I can guarantee you right now that the majority of dreamers are actually fed up with Democrats pushing back the issue when it is evidently clear they can get a better deal now if they use their leverage.

Republicans will be assholes. What's new? The very frustrating thing is Democrats HAVE NOT grown any balls and can bridge the gap here to get a good deal. But, no, coincidence that they willingly give up leverage, reject all offers from Trump, and try to shift the blame on him (granted Trump is an asshole)? They want us for the election and do not want to give Trump a win on the issue. Dems will never admit this, but you can clearly decipher their objectives from their cowardly behavior.

Fuck partisan politics and who gets the victory. You can call your offspring Schumer and Durbin for all I care. Nobody really gives a fuck about partisan politics, especially when both parties are at fault for something. We just want the issue resolved now. Dems need to force a fucking bridge on the gap and stop using us for the election.

Trump literally said Democrats gave him want he wanted, but it wasn't enough. He wanted more. The moron doesn't even know what he wants so stop this, "democrats arent helping us ENOUGH!? FUCK THEM THEY ARE WORSE THAN REPUBLICANS" bullshit mindset some of you red right wing Judas have
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Trump literally said Democrats gave him want he wanted, but it wasn't enough. He wanted more. The moron doesn't even know what he wants so stop this, "democrats arent helping us ENOUGH!? FUCK THEM THEY ARE WORSE THAN REPUBLICANS" bullshit mindset some of you red right wing Judas have
Trump and Republicans are more blameworthy. I see that, but Democrats are not making any things better by being spineless.

Tell me pianos, why was it that Trump felt he could hold the issue and demand more?

The majority sentiment is that Democrats put themselves in that position by giving up leverage on spending. A lot of progressives in D.C. gave warnings about this, but the leadership willingly gave up leverage because you as an illegal arent worth the fight for the Dems because they can get more from using you in the election.

Democrats are blameworthy as well here--even if the blame is significantly less than what Trump and Republicans deserve. That is something you refuse to acknowledge. I am acknowledging Trump and GOP are more blameworthy. But, you refuse to see the obvious of the other side of the coin.

The judas are the ones who can bridge the gap now through leverage but refuse to because they want you for the election, and Dreamers like you facilitate this by staying quiet or telling others to be loyal to the Democrats, regardless.

Now, I am surprised if you are even doing anything. I can tell you right now most dreamers who are lobbying are also assigning blame to Democrats because of what I just reasoned.

Sure, Democrats have always tried to do more. Trump and Republicans are more blameworthy. But, there never is any muscle behind Democratic efforts.
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Why is it that a Republican dominated Gov can make Democrats cave on most of the things they want? (e.g. the tax bill, spending, etc.) But Democrats can't do the same on immigration when they are the majority? Democrats refuse to use any leverage on the issue. And we are supposed to wait for a blue congressional wave? Most of the congressional Democrats are all weak and won't make Republicans agree to anything. Democrats will only virtue signal. That is my problem with the them even if Trump is more blameworthy. TRUMP WILL CONTINUE TO DEMAND more until Democrats grow some balls bro.

It took one brave blue Democrat to create DACA. That was Obama, and this happened only because activists pressured him to do it. But, the majority of Democrats in congress are weak and just want to use us.

Your partisan loyalty, although admirable, prevents you from seeing that.
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Glad I'm independent. Sadly, the incompetency in both sides is astronomical. And having a clown in chief makes things even worse, he's a man without a word who shattered negotiations when both parties had a little spark in common going on. Next presidential elections cannot come fast enough.

This country needs seriousness in the White House, it needs a man who restores credibility and hope. The likes of Mexico's Lopez Obrador. A people's man not a clown.

Indeed we owe everything to Obama, it cannot be emphasized enough. He risked everything for us and it paid off for both, him and us. Now, our future lingers in the hands of an old man, that by all accounts behaves like a child. An elder who cannot be taught otherwise, just like you cannot teach an old new tricks. Regardless, the future looks promising for us and not so much for him.
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Glad I'm independent. Sadly, the incompetency in both sides is astronomical. And having a clown in chief makes things even worse, he's a man without a word who shattered negotiations when both parties had a little spark in common going on. Next presidential elections cannot come fast enough.

This country needs seriousness in the White House, it needs a man who restores credibility and hope. The likes of Mexico's Lopez Obrador. A people's man not a clown.

Indeed we owe everything to Obama, it cannot be emphasized enough. He risked everything for us and it paid off for both, him and us. Now, our future lingers in the hands of an old man, that by all accounts behaves like a child. An elder who cannot be taught otherwise, just like you cannot teach an old new tricks. Regardless, the future looks promising for us and not so much for him.
Yeah, I appreciate Obama for that. It was only 1 brave Democrat. The most in congress are bonified bitches, and it's amazing some idiots here still want to give that a pass.
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