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Fate of 'dreamers' could rest on 'queen of the hill' gambit - Page 2

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Ryan does have a point. However, Trump has been back and forth on this issue so many times. Would he really veto a bill that gives him full wall funding for DREAM Act? I think Congress should call his bluff. I believe the Senate is a bigger obstacle than Trump.
Girl just start issuing bans. I foresee this thread getting derailed again.
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I believe 3 of the bills would cut or eliminate legal immigration. Goodlatte bill (the worst) , whatever Ryan picks (most likely be the whitehouse framework), and USA act if I'm not mistaken eliminates the visa lottery.
3 of the bills, therefore only 1 has the chance of passing since Democrats will not vote for 3 of the 4 bills.

And that one 1 bill the Republicans will not vote for it because it will not cut legal immigration.
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3 of the bills, therefore only 1 has the chance of passing since Democrats will not vote for 3 of the 4 bills.

And that one 1 bill the Republicans will not vote for it because it will not cut legal immigration.
Are you physic? What are the next lotto numbers since you seem to be able to see into the future. Not all bills are simply backed by Dems or Republicans.
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Are you physic? What are the next lotto numbers since you seem to be able to see into the future. Not all bills are simply backed by Dems or Republicans.
Republicans want to cut legal immigration and Democrats don't.

Simple logic.
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Republicans want to cut legal immigration and Democrats don't.

Simple logic.
Then why does the USA act have 27 Republican co-sponsors? Your logic states that Republicans wouldn't co-sponsor that bill.
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Then why does the USA act have 27 Republican co-sponsors? Your logic states that Republicans wouldn't co-sponsor that bill.
As a majority of group, not individual. Hence the s at the end of Republican and the s at the end of Democrat.

I bolded the letter S for you.

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Republicans want to cut legal immigration and Democrats don't.

Simple logic.
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As a majority of group, not individual. Hence the s at the end of Republican and the s at the end of Democrat.

I bolded the letter S for you.
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3 of the bills, therefore only 1 has the chance of passing since Democrats will not vote for 3 of the 4 bills.

And that one 1 bill the Republicans will not vote for it because it will not cut legal immigration.
You are grouping all Republicans into one group and Democrats into another. Your argument is that none of the bills would pass because all Republicans would vote one way and all Democrats would vote the opposite, which is false since there are many Republicans that support the USA Act. What you are doing is called generalizing.

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Pretty sure our fates don't rely on this.

This is not a gambit, this is posturing for the midterm elections on both sides.

Our fates lie with the Ninth Circuit court. Hearings start May 15th.
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Round and Round we go.


Last edited by Nusion; 04-19-2018 at 03:09 PM.. Reason: IM a pleb.
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You are grouping all Republicans into one group and Democrats into another. Your argument is that none of the bills would pass because all Republicans would vote one way and all Democrats would vote the opposite, which is false since there are many Republicans that support the USA Act. What you are doing is called generalizing.

Here is an example.
Look at the debate for DACA, Republicans wanted to cut legal immigration democrats didn't. There was no solution at the end.

I am generalizing because the majority decides the fate of DACA.

Simple logic.
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