The Democrats' total capitulation on the border - Page 2
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Originally Posted by catportal
So far nothing has had a single foot of new fencing. Anything new built was authorized from obama years. Dems are giving TRUMP 55 new miles of wall.
What does Trump have to do with Dems giving 55 miles of wall for nothing? They could just give 0 and force Trump to counter. |
The rest are security measures that had bipartisan support to begin with. He can't accuse them of being "open borders" without looking like an even bigger imbecile (if that's even possible).
We're not getting a DACA fix and he isn't getting his wall or any of the proposed changes to immigration his white trash nationalist base is so eager for.
The best that can come out of all of this is it costs him reelection, we survived his first term and get indefinite DACA.
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I was also furious last night when Cenk from TYT said that the Democrats got a good deal. What he and some of you guys do not get is that Trump and the Republicans can spin this any way they want. They still got money for some type of a barrier... Whether it is steel slats, fencing, concrete wall and etc... You cannot give the guy over a billion dollars for some type of a barrier and then say that you got a win. They should have counter offered the Dream ACT for the wall after the government was open. They will now pass the Dream ACT in the House and watch it die in the Senate. SAD
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Originally Posted by ExMachina
Fencing ≠ Wall
The rest are security measures that had bipartisan support to begin with. He can't accuse them of being "open borders" without looking like an even bigger imbecile (if that's even possible). We're not getting a DACA fix and he isn't getting his wall or any of the proposed changes to immigration his white trash nationalist base is so eager for. The best that can come out of all of this is it costs him reelection, we survived his first term and get indefinite DACA. |
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21m21 minutes ago More GOP leadership told members this morning that they’ve been informed Trump WILL sign the border deal |
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I was also furious last night when Cenk from TYT said that the Democrats got a good deal. What he and some of you guys do not get is that Trump and the Republicans can spin this any way they want. They still got money for some type of a barrier... Whether it is steel slats, fencing, concrete wall and etc... You cannot give the guy over a billion dollars for some type of a barrier and then say that you got a win. They should have counter offered the Dream ACT for the wall after the government was open. They will now pass the Dream ACT in the House and watch it die in the Senate. SAD
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Yes he's in a unique position to spin anything as a "win", but that only works on his base. They hang on to his every word like it's gospel.
Dems can't offer DA, he'd never agree to it, he spent months gaslighting the public on a DACA fix and offered nothing reasonable each time. At some point you have to come to terms with this.
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Originally Posted by cmeow
They were going to give him that before the shutdown happened. This deal in February is giving him a bit less than the deal in December 2018. In theory, Trump would reject this because he's getting less but who knows. No one really has the appetite for another shutdown.
I'm not saying giving Trump a border wall/fence is good or not. I'm just trying to speculate if Trump will accept it or not. |
New bill has 23B in DHS funding, 55 miles of fence ~ 1.35B
Stop watching msnbc
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They offered 1.6B in border security funding, 0 miles of fence...
New bill has 23B in DHS funding, 55 miles of fence ~ 1.35B Stop watching msnbc |
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yeah i get that part. its was for 1.375 bil which is what they do every year to replenish funds for DHS, CBP, and ICE to operate.
less than the initial 1.6 bil agreed to in December and way less from the 5.7 bil Trump wanted but how come there was 55 miles of new wall? not sure whats going on.
anyone care to clarify?
less than the initial 1.6 bil agreed to in December and way less from the 5.7 bil Trump wanted but how come there was 55 miles of new wall? not sure whats going on.
anyone care to clarify?
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Originally Posted by JJ Glo
DHS funding was always included....DHS funding is a requirements or DHS doesn't operate. You're acting like Dems weren't going to fund DHS?
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yeah i get that part. its was for 1.375 bil which is what they do every year to replenish funds for DHS, CBP, and ICE to operate.
less than the initial 1.6 bil agreed to in December and way less from the 5.7 bil Trump wanted but how come there was 55 miles of new wall? not sure whats going on. anyone care to clarify? |
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