Miller's Plan For DACA - Page 2

Originally Posted by beingoflight

We already had quite a few good deals on the table and the demorats backed off since they were influenced by United We Dream since they wanted legalization for all EVEN for criminals among other absolutely ridiculous demands that must be dealt with SEPARATELY. UWD unfortunately is the organization that represents us the most and has sabotaged the deals we could of got to get this fixed once and for all, but no, they wont let us get fixed to keep getting donations.

Is it necessary to make remarks about something so irrelevant like my career? Jealous? Kinda low to be doing that.

Originally Posted by Chn

But the difference is that Miller has actual power and clout and we've seen time and time again that Trump listens to Miller.

UWD is all bark and no bite, putting aside their fundraising for a second, how much influence do you really think that they have with the Democratic Party? I would say little, if any at all. The Democratic party understands that protecting Dreamers is popular with their base, if UWD wants to profit from that, then so be it, but let's not pretend that the tail is wagging the dog on this one. Any influence from UWD is further diluted by the fact that there are 250+ members in the US Congress in the Democratic party. Again, UWD is nothing compared to some of the special interest groups in DC, they probably don't have enough money to TALK to 1/10th of the Democratic caucus.

One man is easier to influence than one party, especially if that man is already willing to listen to anti-immigration ideas.

Equating Miller and UWD is absurd. That's like me fearing the monster on my TV more than an actual intruder inside my home.

Originally Posted by Swim19

I completely agree. I don't get where this idea UWD has actual power. They are loud, but does anyone actually listen to them? UWD is not perfect and they do need to learn to compromise, but Miller is a much, much larger threat to any deal. Miller is very likely going to ask for things that Democrats won't compromise on.

Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith

2Face you must out of your mind if you think miller, trumps right hand man on immigration policy has less power than UWD

Originally Posted by 2Face

Hey scroll above we have established the fact that UWD no longer holds power.

Originally Posted by 2Face

MAGA! Party at the UWD headquarters as fear increases in immigrant community which means more donations!

Originally Posted by 2Face

It's not about UWD being at fault. This is EXACTLY what they wanted. They want continued turmoil and problems, while at the same time making it seem like they fought hard. They can't afford ANY sort of bill to pass because they are afraid then their cash flow from donations will go down. It's a big business. They profit from status quo and fear. Immigrant community needs to get smart and bypass these fraudulent organizations and lobby Congress directly.

Originally Posted by 2Face

Originally Posted by 2Face

CIR can’t happen before DA. Dreamers have to be legalized first otherwise nobody is getting anything. Don’t listen to UWD fraudsters, they want “Clean CIR” because they know it’s not going to pass.

Originally Posted by 2Face

You listening too much to gangster ultra liberal immigration organizations like UWD.

Originally Posted by 2Face

And not only that, they have guaranteed themselves more and more donations. Sadly the immigrant community will always fall for this and they will continue believing that UWD cares for them. Just look at the facebook campaigns UWD is running to scare people. We can thank the "Clean DA" movement for us getting absolutely zilch nothing and the wall is already being built.

Originally Posted by 2Face

The failed policies and rhetoric of far left libs and radical orgs like UWD is costing us dearly right now.