Conservatives want to redefine citizenship for illegal aliens' children - Page 3

The debate is not about changing or amending the 14th amendment they are going in front of the Supreme Court to interpret the 14th amendment as valid for Birth rite citizenship. If the Supreme Court rules that section that states any mother who has foreign allegiance meaning a illegal not in there country has a child within the US then that child is chained to the jurisdiction of the country of the mothers origin. This has never been debated in front of the Supreme Court strictly about illegal immigrant babies born in the US . The people that are fighting this have a good case to take to the Supreme Court but again if you want a dream act to pass you need push for no more birth right citizenship because it will help the Dream Act and any kind of immigration bills. Know one is going to pass any Dream Act or CIR until they know this situation will never happen again because they have already been burned by it before and there not going to let it happen again..

This is your statement so I did get it and you did not. Your original quate dealt with civil right abuses then your exact words after that on your post were:

I mean come on... American slavery anyone? Civil rights... It's possible.

Maybe you should of read the post rather than just blurting out inflammatory word like civil right being abused , Slavery like the suffering of Afro-Americans. Then post me my response did not get it when my post was exactly about your choice of words in your post.

One thing not to fully read something another to start running others down on something that came from your own words in your post. Amazing calling me out on Econ 101 LOL. We were not even discussing Econ were discussing History and legislative law..

lolz... you still don't get it. lolz... psh oh well. not gonna waste my time explainin' when i got better things to worry about.

Yeah like studying that would be my first suggestion. When you still have not read your on post to realize I was never off topic and completely followed up on your post. Its so easy to say psst I know you are but what am I . Geez.

lolz.. i studied a lot in school and now i'm chilling and relaxing. lolz you still don't get it.

Yeah I dont get it but you be sure to wave on your way out since you have everything figured out.

lulz... apology accepted.

I would argue that they don't have a good case on the matter, per se, stripping someone's naturalized citizenship is an unconstitutional act in itself. The only way they can get around this is to make two classes of citizenship something that has not been ruled unconstitutional, akin segregationist though. So this route is just a public display and not much would go on, is their money so I guess they can spend it however they want.

Trust me, immigration has burned America several times the Irish, the polish, the germans, and the italians, just kept coming and werent assimilating either. So yeah if you call that burn they were burn and most likely as history shows, would keep getting burn regardless of legislation.

Irish, Polish, Italians came here legally and received legal citzenship upon arrival, The people that are fighting birth rite citizenship are not creating two types of citizens that is unless you are a slave brought to this country by American and paid for. By the letter of the words in the 14th amendment that have not been changed it states if the mother of the child born in the US has jurisdiction from another country (illegal)than that child is under the jurisdiction of the mothers country's jurisdiction . It will be close but I believe that Hagan (d) supreme court justice has worked on a case like this on a different type of illegal immigration and will have to recluse herself from the case so it will be heard by a majority republican supreme court and the case is being presented by two good constitutional attorney's. So we will see what happens the court has several cases on immigration that are about be cleared up they rushed SB1070 up there from Arizona you can follow there cases and judgments on line/

My point with the Irish, Polish, and Germans was to show that immigration has always been "burning" this country, that's why they call it the melting pot. Look there has already been a case in the Supreme court that has ruled your "jurisdiction" argument void. Research "United States v. Wong Kim Ark". Remember this was at the time when Chinese immigrants were excluded from citizenship. So that argument won't go anywhere including in a highly conservative court. So the whole issue is just a throwing wood to the fire of their racist base. The 14th amendment has survived many waves of immigrants and would continued to do so, since it took an entire war for its ratification.