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01-06-2013, 01:34 AM
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What about people that will turn 31 this year?
Have this politicians thought of that?

And another thing, this politicians always say that
they do not want a "piece·meal" approach. That they
want one huge immigration bill. Well, that was already
done in 86' and did not work!

If they could only realize how f'ed up the system is then
they would realize that it was too f'ed up to be fixed by one
single legislation. They need to tackle on issue at a time
and have a methodological approach.

I would like for them to try and bring a family member
via their shitty system to realize what a living hell
it is.
No I would like them to have their citizenship, ssn, DL, everything stripped from then and then they will understand what it's like to live like us. Of course that will never happen but that would be the only way for many who don't support our cause and those legislators who refuse to cooperate to understand. It isn't just about not being able to pay for school, drive, work, but how this has affected many of us psychologically as well.

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Upper age limit makes no sense for DACA or the Dream Act. If they create any legislation/executive actions/memos it is because action was needed. How are aged out dreamers responsible for their lack of action at an earlier point in time?
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I dont even understand why there is an upper limit. It makes no sense. No one is old enough to reap the benefits that the elderly may have. If they were, they would've been covered under Reagan's cir. Make the starting age 14, 15, 16 who cares. Dont set a maximum.
It doesn't make any sense to me either. I know people that came here so young even before age 14,15,16 but do not qualify for the DA/DACA because of they are 30+. It's just not fair. Some might not like what I'm about to say but the time one has been here should be taken into consideration especially when it comes to these people. They are dreamers too.
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01-06-2013, 02:32 AM
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It doesn't make any sense to me either. I know people that came here so young even before age 14,15,16 but do not qualify for the DA/DACA because of they are 30+. It's just not fair. Some might not like what I'm about to say but the time one has been here should be taken into consideration especially when it comes to these people. They are dreamers too.
I think thats pretty fair. Unlike Daca, where that wasnt the case. But I suppose it becomes too complicated to prioritize cases over the other. In an ideal situation having an "arrived first - processed first" situation might be amazing...but I think we all know that it would be quite impossible =P
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01-06-2013, 02:40 AM
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I think thats pretty fair. Unlike Daca, where that wasnt the case. But I suppose it becomes too complicated to prioritize cases over the other. In an ideal situation having an "arrived first - processed first" situation might be amazing...but I think we all know that it would be quite impossible =P
Yea I think this is where the I believe retro DAUser's always talking about comes in handy. Man you need to be approved like now. I'm prayin' for ya man!
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01-06-2013, 03:00 AM
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Agreed, my friend. I guess if they could meet halfway on the DA criteria it would make some kind of sense, but the achieve act is so weird, like the $3,000 fines that I'm not even sure weather to take it seriously, I think we will end up with something close to the original DA though.

But here's the real question, would dreamers rather want DA stand-alone or tagged with CIR?? i think I should create some polls on this.
CIR. CIR would, I hope, resolve the issue.
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01-06-2013, 05:58 PM
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I think it's kind of lame that they are forcing us to go to college for 4 yrs or military for 4yrs if a DA passes
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01-06-2013, 08:24 PM
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I think it's kind of lame that they are forcing us to go to college for 4 yrs or military for 4yrs if a DA passes
Eh I'm doing it already so that part doesn't bother me that much. lol
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01-06-2013, 08:31 PM
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I think it's kind of lame that they are forcing us to go to college for 4 yrs or military for 4yrs if a DA passes
I dont think you Understand what the Dream Act is about


anti DA

"DREAM ACT IS JUST AN AMNESTY!"


Pro DA: "WHAT NO ITS NOT!! ITS A WAY OF MEANS PEOPLE CAN USE TO GO TO COLLEGE OR FINISH THEIR DEGREES!!"


You:" ARghhh so I have to do 4 years in school or 4 in the military? I thought the DA was just amnesty"
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01-06-2013, 09:13 PM
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I think most dreamers want to earn their citizenship. Feeling entitled to citizenship simply because your parents brought you here as a child is exactly what the opposition believes. Most of us realize that this country owes us nothing, so we want to 'earn' our right to live here.

Don't complain, there's people all over the world who are willing to do a lot more for an opportunity to live here.
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01-06-2013, 10:48 PM
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I think most dreamers want to earn their citizenship. Feeling entitled to citizenship simply because your parents brought you here as a child is exactly what the opposition believes. Most of us realize that this country owes us nothing, so we want to 'earn' our right to live here.

Don't complain, there's people all over the world who are willing to do a lot more for an opportunity to live here.
Spoken like a man. THIS^
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01-06-2013, 11:45 PM
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I think most dreamers want to earn their citizenship. Feeling entitled to citizenship simply because your parents brought you here as a child is exactly what the opposition believes. Most of us realize that this country owes us nothing, so we want to 'earn' our right to live here.

Don't complain, there's people all over the world who are willing to do a lot more for an opportunity to live here.
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