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#21
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Here we go, lets blame our parents, you know once you turned 18, that burden was passed on to you.
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I don't know about you but I didn't break no law.. I was brought here at a very young age and believed I belong here just like everyone else.. I didn't do anything wrong.. I pay my taxes.. I contribute my part to society.. Why do I have to be dragged along? I'd never want to be on government aid and I'd even fight for this country and risk my life for it.. And I think I speak for most when I say that's how most of us truly feel.. Why don't we deserve citizenship? Is it some godly untouchable only the most worthy should have it? Look at all the criminal and government leeches out there.. Give the damn DACA benefitiaries PR/citizenship we want nothing more than to help this country prosper.. You seem to feel like you don't deserve that.. Maybe you don't? I don't really know you.. But don't try speaking for all of us when you come in here talking about we all broke the law.. I didn't break any law.. My parents did.. Not me..
I came here when I was a kid I didn't break the law either, I've done everything that has been asked of me and there is nothing more that I want then to be become a citizen but what gives me the right to demand anything from anyone without blaming my parents for everything. At 18 it became our choice to break the law maybe not by choice but we did anyways we are to blame even if it doesn't feel like it at least when it comes to the law we did. Do I deserve to be a citizen I don't know I'm just a person trying to get by hoping for a better life but I can't not now or ever demand something from someone when I know that I'm not entirely guilt free if you were you would have left at 18 but chose not to beliving you deserved more than your parents. If I have to wait longer to EARN my place here I will if you think you are better and deserve everything just because you want it fine I want it too but I have never been able to demand anything from anyone just because I think I deserve it. It's like breaking into someone's house and just because they didn't notice you then later start demanding they give you partial ownership of the house. It's not fair even if we think we deserve it. I'll rather earn it then have it handed to me. DACA was more then I could have hope for ill take anything I just won't make it look like this country owes me for the actions of my parents. You feel like this country owes you something it doesn't but like you I have no intentions of leaving this country not now or ever.
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03-18-2013, 12:49 AM
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Here we go, lets blame our parents, you know once you turned 18, that burden was passed on to you.
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thats up to you. I cannot say what to do because then that would make me a hypocrite.
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By all means, while we are being sarcastic, they should make 40 years if its 100% guarantee.



You are literally the only person I know who has been here more than 25 years and not found a way of fixing his status. I think my friends sister held that record for 18 years but then he got married. However, why you havent is your own business and I won't ask about it
You act as if DACA is something that you did for yourself. Without it, you'd be in my shoes amigo and after 27 years, the younger version of yourself would be talking a big game about how you should have fixed your status. You're lucky because you're under 30 at a time when the political stars lined up and 11 million people had enough of a voice to change the climate a bit. Nothing more.

If there was a way for me to fix my status I would have, but they don't hand out green cards without a new law being passed. I suppose I could have got married by now and thanks to being grandfathered under exclusion rules, that is one possibility, but that is the only possibility. I've talked about it before but I haven't met the right person now that I've liked who hasn't ran away after hearing about my status. Maybe that will change, but I still live my life.

By the way, it's kind of class-less to use DA User's quote in your tagline.
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When did I acted like DACa was something I did myself? everyone knows it was a memo by DHS please show me where I act like DACA was something I did. As I have said before, citizenship for me personally is not everything, maybe for other people but for me, I will use DACA for the time it allows me to have and if nothing happens, I am not going to live here waiting for my siblings or the company I work for to petition for me, I would be living a life of bitterness and frustration. No I dont want to go through that route and live here limited, nah thats not what life is about. I will move back home and I will seek work somewhere else.

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I came here when I was a kid I didn't break the law either, I've done everything that has been asked of me and there is nothing more that I want then to be become a citizen but what gives me the right to demand anything from anyone without blaming my parents for everything. At 18 it became our choice to break the law maybe not by choice but we did anyways we are to blame even if it doesn't feel like it at least when it comes to the law we did. Do I deserve to be a citizen I don't know I'm just a person trying to get by hoping for a better life but I can't not now or ever demand something from someone when I know that I'm not entirely guilt free if you were you would have left at 18 but chose not to beliving you deserved more than your parents. If I have to wait longer to EARN my place here I will if you think you are better and deserve everything just because you want it fine I want it too but I have never been able to demand anything from anyone just because I think I deserve it. It's like breaking into someone's house and just because they didn't notice you then later start demanding they give you partial ownership of the house. It's not fair even if we think we deserve it. I'll rather earn it then have it handed to me. DACA was more then I could have hope for ill take anything I just won't make it look like this country owes me for the actions of my parents. You feel like this country owes you something it doesn't but like you I have no intentions of leaving this country not now or ever.
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Stop thinking citizenship is some godly you have to be worthy thing.. You fail to realize the only reason why the government doesn't give out citizenship like hot cakes is cause people would abuse the government assistance programs (welfare, foodstamps etc) dreamers aka DACA benefitiaries will NOT do that.. We are people who came here as kids and grown up to be Americans..

Please anyone who sits here crying about how they're not worthy of citizenship cause they broke the law.. Don't apply for DACA.. Don't apply for DA (if it passes) and go back to a country that you most likely don't know and may not even speak the language..

It's irritating being on a site that's supposed to promote a path for legalization for us and having all these children cry about how they're illegal and don't deserve anything.. Keep in mind.. Politicians who do reaserch on undocumented minorities before they throw a vote in congress could very well be reading your Debie downer post and you could sway them that you truly don't deserve a path to legalization, please realize you're only hurting yourself and our community.

Once again, if you feel that you don't deserve a path to legalization DO NOT, ABSOLUTLEY DO NOT APPLY FOR IT.

You sirs have a wonderful night and please, realize what the hell you post online, you don't know who's reading it.
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are you retarded?
No. Whatever it takes for the CIR to pass. 15 years being legalized, able to work, drive and travel is a LOT better than being undocumented for 15 more years.

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Yes DA User you should wait 15 years before obtaining a green card and 10 years to apply f0r citizenship

aren't like you 31+ now?
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So you guys would reject a plan that would give you a guaranteed green card in 15 years? (assuming that's what it would take to pass immigration reform) even if in the 15 years you had a work permit, driver's license, could travel freely, and otherwise had a normal life? I'd go for it. In a heartbeat.

Why? because 15 years is gone in a blink of an eye. I'm 37 so it would mean I'd get it when I'm 52 and I'm still ok with it because during that time, my life would no longer be on hold. I can get a real job, live in the part of the country I want to live in, travel, meet new people, get married etc. And without the restrictions I have now, a lot of things can happen in 15 years. I could get married 2 years from now and get my green card. Family sponsorship could kick in before that. A company might sponsor me. You never know.

I'm not saying 15 years is ideal but compared to what we have now - the "maybe they'll pass a great bill tomorrow" that I've heard about for 27 years, I'll do 15 year standing on my head.
I agree with you. I would go for it in a heartbeat also. Every individual comes from a different background. One would have to be in someone's shoes to experienced how it is to be undocumented for a long long time.

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By all means, while we are being sarcastic, they should make 40 years if its 100% guarantee.

40 years being legal is sure better than 40 years being undocumented.


You are literally the only person I know who has been here more than 25 years and not found a way of fixing his status. I think my friends sister held that record for 18 years but then he got married. However, why you havent is your own business and I won't ask about it
That is just 1 person that knows one person who has been here more then 25 years. An undocumented could be here from 1982 and still be undocumented today.



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which is why I predict something by the end of Obamas term
I predict CIR will pass this month.

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Who is bringing in parents here? From my research, parents brought their kids to USA for a better life.
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You act as if DACA is something that you did for yourself. Without it, you'd be in my shoes amigo and after 27 years, the younger version of yourself would be talking a big game about how you should have fixed your status. You're lucky because you're under 30 at a time when the political stars lined up and 11 million people had enough of a voice to change the climate a bit. Nothing more.

If there was a way for me to fix my status I would have, but they don't hand out green cards without a new law being passed. I suppose I could have got married by now and thanks to being grandfathered under exclusion rules, that is one possibility, but that is the only possibility. I've talked about it before but I haven't met the right person now that I've liked who hasn't ran away after hearing about my status. Maybe that will change, but I still live my life.

By the way, it's kind of class-less to use DA User's quote in your tagline.
So true man.. These kids talk a big game but dot realize what the hell they're saying.. You didn't do anything, you got a fucking masters degree for fucks sake, you're not going to abuse any government programs.. All you want to do is contribute and have an equal shot.. Again for the 10th time today.. Please to those above.. If you do not feel worthy of the god almighty legalization, don't apply for it.

I am so thankful for the president and his fight for us, last thing I want is someone in my own community of people sitting here telling me I broke the law.. Don't we have enough ignorant people saying that? Do you really have to take a jab at yourself?
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40 years being legal is sure better than 40 years being undocumented.

This is where you are wrong buddy, because this is subjective, I personally have stated on this site, I do not care about a CIR, if it passed then good then it will benefit lots of people including my parents, if it doesn't then oh well, it wasn't meant to be and I don't let that control my fate. I will seek a legal path and you know? If I can't find then big deal, I am not going to live here frustrated, I will move back country and find employment through a different country. In fact, if I wanted right now and is something I had considered before DACA and after I graduated was move back home and apply for work in Germany since I do have family living there making good money. Life here is good, I don't deny it, I am grateful for what this country has given me, a warm roof and a warm bed with a computer for me to post this but USA citizenship is not everything to me. While its obvious USA citizenship has tremendous advantages, its not everything in life and life goes on.

40 years with frustration is still 40 years with frustration
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