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Boehner draws another hard line on immigration reform - Page 3

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#21
11-14-2013, 12:52 PM
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imagine if Republicans win 2015 because of Obamacare...
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imagine if Republicans win 2015 because of Obamacare...
Wouldn't that be something...yikes...

...can kiss CIR/DA goodbye.
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I figure trying something is better than sitting around waiting on them to maybe take immigration reform up again in 2016 and watch more deportations happen in the mean time.

I'll take the time to call because while I have DACA, many people in my life did not qualify for anything. The number is listed in the Taking Action part of the forum, so if any of you have a mother, sister, brother, father or just a friend who did not qualify for DACA, take the time to make ONE phone call on their behalf.

We should be more realistic in our approach rather than be in a Obama-overstating goals state. I think Dream Act would pass today if it came up for a vote without any attachments. There is momentum on the issue and we should use that to our advantage. Passing Dream Act would actually commence the negotiations and it would be hard for democrats to justify their rejection on the notion CIR or nothing deal. If you are from brooklyn or staten island, we have to push Michael Grimm - republican to be more active in representing our district. From a strategic point, it would be best to pressure Republicans who are winnable on the issue. We need more republicans to make the case for the Tea party. Anyway, CIR is inevitable but time is of the essence for us and our families.
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Till 2016 it is then
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I personally knew that if he wins he's not going to be touching DACA.
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If the President were to pass a broad DACA like program, the odds that he would lose in a law suit are pretty high. If he were to do that, than Dreamers might lose theirs in the courts. Plus there would be a massive backlash from dems, repubs and voters. One thing that I have learned is that most people like dreamers because they see us going to school with their children, but they do not like our parents. I think is because they cannot relate to our parents. Most people see our parents as just a statistic!
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If the President were to pass a broad DACA like program, the odds that he would lose in a law suit are pretty high. If he were to do that, than Dreamers might lose theirs in the courts. Plus there would be a massive backlash from dems, repubs and voters. One thing that I have learned is that most people like dreamers because they see us going to school with their children, but they do not like our parents. I think is because they cannot relate to our parents. Most people see our parents as just a statistic!
DA passage it is! No age cap!

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The same presidential authority and legal reasoning for creating DACA can be used to expand it. False choice to say that by expanding it, we are forfeiting CIR. CIR is dead. They GAVE UP the chance to pass it, and it is my belief they knew it, and just did not give two flying monkeys about it.

As fas a passing DA only, we are five years too late for that. As I have written before, the votes were there for two years, an entire congress session, and it would have passed. Sen.Durbin requested it, Gutierrez fought it, Schmer played it, and the president sat back because he only cared for his re-election. Had they done it, we would now be soon eligible for citizenship. I was watching a news conference this am from the president about the exchange website - a f* website is monopolizing progress of any legislation for the remainder of this Congress. Wow. Apologies, finger-pointing, excuses, righ-wing fabrications, etc. It is just a website. The product (affordable healthcare) is AVAILABLE. If the website is down, and believe me, most Medicaid-expansion recipients could care less about the medium through which they can finally have decent insurance, then call the number and enroll by phone. Jesus, it is not the people who are hung up on this, it is the msm and Republicans.

As a healthcare worker, let me give you an example: How many of you who have had the chance to have health insurance and longtime doctors, make apptmt online? Most private practice physicians don't have an online apptm management portal - you have to call to make your doc's appointment. Well, this works the same. The Pres needs to go out there and make it a point that it is not different than calling a doctors' clinic and findind out which physician would be best for you (from the receptionist) or calling to set up your appointment.
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If Republicans dont pass any major bill, I hope they let DACA join the military. I will be happy.
Belive me they won't let anything pass even the military bill/
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If the President were to pass a broad DACA like program, the odds that he would lose in a law suit are pretty high. If he were to do that, than Dreamers might lose theirs in the courts. Plus there would be a massive backlash from dems, repubs and voters. One thing that I have learned is that most people like dreamers because they see us going to school with their children, but they do not like our parents. I think is because they cannot relate to our parents. Most people see our parents as just a statistic!
No for they (GOP) are DEM VOTES....
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so It look like CIR might pass at 2014.
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