Children crossing the border - Page 3

Exactly! How can they expect their main argument about arriving here as a young child (without a choice) to stand while arguing this way against other children. Completely hypocritical. They've only reinforced the arguments made against fellow dreamers.

Once again, they aren't like us. Go to Cnn.com right now look at the front page story of thousands of kids as young as 4 coming here on their own and causing a crisis. Is that how you came here? These kids' parents are actual criminals by any definition for abandoning their kids. They are worse than animals for throwing their kids to the wolves because even animals protect their children. Pick any animal and if you try to go after their young you will be attacked, but these parents just sent them away to go get green cards and so they can come too.


These kids also have a country and it's called Mexico. They speak Spanish and that is the only home they've known. Most dreamers speak English and the US is their only home. They are not dreamers.

In a Utopian world, sure, everybody can live where they want and we can all hold hands and sing pretty songs, but the reality is the people who have been here suffering and waiting are barely hanging on hoping for reform and these people are not only putting their kids in danger, but putting the rest of us in danger. At some point we have to stop and look out for ourselves too. It's a zero sum game.

I would argue that it's sad to see YOU be all high and mighty since YOU have YOUR work authorization when there are still another 10 million people like myself who don't. Maybe if you put yourself in my shoes you'd see that I deserve to get mine after 28 years more than the kid whose parents told him to "go get your green card! they're giving them away!"

Try again. I don't have mine and thanks to these kids, I may not have mine for a long time. Even those of you with an EAD don't have yours yet.

How long does one need to be in the US to become an American? A year? Five, ten?

Many here seem to presume that they have a right to stay because they've been here long enough, but these children haven't. This is an implicit concession to anti-migrant arguments that no citizenship can be granted to those who haven't assimilated.

So, lets get specific. Where is the line being drawn to be considered one of 'us'? One, five, ten years? Are those Dreamers who speak more than English disqualified? Are those who haven't become protestants disqualified?

I thought it was bad enough that so many here were willing to throw their parents in front of the bus, but children now too? Being a citizen is nice, but we mustn't accept it at any cost. Certainly not by wishing ill will on others in similar situations to our own. If we do then we may gain US citizenship but at the cost of our membership to the human race.

I know that I don't have the right to stay here even after 28 years. I never meant for any of this to happen. We tried to come here legally, things happened, and now I've been here with nowhere else to go. It's not my right but I ask the US government to have some compassion and sensibility to let me stay here legally. On the other hand, these kids' parents knowingly sent them to break the law because they saw a green card buffet and wanted a piece. There is no litmus test to see who deserves it. It common sense says that those who have waited are a bigger priority.

If you're so compassionate about the world, why stop at the kids coming now? Why only show compassion to Mexican kids? What about all the hundreds of thousands of Syrian families whose houses just suddenly blew up? What about all the starving kids in Africa? Should all of them get green cards too while we wait?

You can me evil all you want (all of you), but it's not because of Cantor leaving that immigration reform is dead this summer. It's because of these kids. The only excuse that Republicans have had for not doing something (aside from their implied racism) is the border needs to be secure.

In the Senate hearings 2 years ago, they were grilling Janet Napolitano over her contention that the border was indeed secure and they were catching and deporting a record number of people. They were even calling Obama the Deporter In Chief which actually is great for our side because we could say "See, the border is secure". Thanks to these kids and their parents, all of a sudden the narrative has come that we are being invaded and the border is not secure and therefore nothing can be done on immigration.

You can talk philosophy and compassion all you want, but there it is. I also noticed that all of you compassionate people who want these kids to get their papers already have DACA and can afford to be compassionate and wait another 2, 4, 6 years for immigration reform can pass. I didn't get DACA and can't wait and will throw up if I see these kids get DACA before I do.

Meaningless argument!

You can do whatever you want. It is just UNFAIR for the US to feed the children/young adults/adults of the entire planet. The US does not owe anything to children/young adults/adults from other countries. Those children/young adults/adults have their own countries to take care of them.

We are here in the US. We should care about THIS country, NOT about another country or countries. When it is time for us to become fully legal (Green card, US citizenship), we want that document to be still valuable. We do not want a passport/green card that says United States of BIGGER Mexico, or NEW South America, or NEW India.

These new comers are UNLIKE us. They are not taken into the US by their parents. They are NOT dreamers. They should NOT be treated like dreamers. They should be returned to their home countries.

You do know that these kids are mostly from Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala? Mexican kids are returned to Mexico immediately because of the shared border. That is irrelevant; what is relevant though, is that most of these kids are fleeing EXTREME poverty and violence. The fact that they trek across four countries should give you a clue as to the kind of situations they are fleeing from. I dont know your particular situation whether you came to this country as an infant and dont remember the conditions of your home country or perhaps you came from a country that is already developed like South Korea or a European country. As a dreamer that came to this country at a later age, I do remember what its like to live in conditions of extreme poverty and violence, having to go days without eating, not having plumbing and things that most of us take for granted in this country. So for me, personally, its hard to turn my back on these kids because to an extent I know what they are going through.

sorry for the essay, but its how I feel.

Assume what you said is true, although I am not quite sure about that.

So what? There are always people living in poverty and violence. There are such people here in the US as well. So, help these people first before worrying people from other countries.

The US is not rich enough to help people living in poverty of the entire world. We are NOT rich enough to afford to help people living in poverty of the entire world. We are just NOT wealthy enough to do that.

The US government does this?

Exactly, they are now here in the US hence why it is an issue about what to do with them!

Returned to whom? It can't be easy to identify who is related to whom just by "deporting them"! The logistics of something of this capacity and sensitivity is a lot more complex than this.

I would be much more concerned on if the Dreamer groups who attempted entry inspired this whole thing to the border at the moment.