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White House says Obama is ‘looking forward’ to executive action on immigration - Page 3

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#21
11-12-2014, 01:51 PM
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I have nearly 15 years of well documented residency here, and I will gladly pay any back taxes that i owe. In fact, i tried getting an ITIN to do that a few years back and i was unsuccessful. A lot of applicants get denied simply because the IRS may believe you're trying to use the ITIN for other purposes like opening a bank account, getting a driver's license, etc., as opposed to getting one because you want to actually pay taxes. I was trying to get it for both purposes, hoping that it would help me in the future as well.
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Obama Has a big surprise in store for his EO, no one even knows what it will contain,which to me means he is going to piss off the immigration community. We are now in the second week of Nov, not one leaked memo out lining who will be eligible. I could see the AG workers, some sort of change to the visa law and something with marriage to a USC or LPR. This is just to hush hush and 10 years in the country providing proof .. I bet he throws some sort of fee and or have been paying taxes for x amount of years into the loop. Which would rule my mom out.
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Obama Has a big surprise in store for his EO, no one even knows what it will contain,which to me means he is going to piss off the immigration community. We are now in the second week of Nov, not one leaked memo out lining who will be eligible. I could see the AG workers, some sort of change to the visa law and something with marriage to a USC or LPR. This is just to hush hush and 10 years in the country providing proof .. I bet he throws some sort of fee and or have been paying taxes for x amount of years into the loop. Which would rule my mom out.
About your mother, I don't think that's an option. The administration is fully aware of the fact that undocumented people work under the table or using SSNs that do not belong to them. If they were going to use "x number of years of tax payment" to disqualify people, that would have been in the Senate bill (as opposed to having the opportunity to pay taxes, which is what is in the Senate bill).

And I agree. I thought at this point, there would be some information leaked to us. Anything! I am hoping the 2 million was just a talking point (since that's a number Jorge Ramos suggested some estimates are) and not an actual figure being considered by the administration. I estimated in a another post that approximately 5 million people could benefit, including the parents of DACA beneficiaries, based on some 2012 numbers of undocumented immigrants.

However, I could see that number still including long term residents (non-DACA DREAMers), parents of USCs, parents of DACA beneficiaries, and spouses of USCs/LPRs who have been here for 10+ years (About 3.1 million). The vast majority of the undocumented population recent immigrated. As of 2012, " 62 percent of undocumented immigrants have been living in the United States for 10 years or longer."

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Obama Has a big surprise in store for his EO, no one even knows what it will contain,which to me means he is going to piss off the immigration community. We are now in the second week of Nov, not one leaked memo out lining who will be eligible. I could see the AG workers, some sort of change to the visa law and something with marriage to a USC or LPR. This is just to hush hush and 10 years in the country providing proof .. I bet he throws some sort of fee and or have been paying taxes for x amount of years into the loop. Which would rule my mom out.
I don't see anything wrong about paying taxes for x amount of years. Even though we are undocumented, we still have to pay taxes. I would be more than happy if he adds this clause. I pay a lot of taxes. My parents paid over 40k in taxes last year. Its only fair to those that have always payed taxes.
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About your mother, I don't think that's an option. The administration is fully aware of the fact that undocumented people work under the table or using SSNs that do not belong to them. If they were going to use "x number of years of tax payment" to disqualify people, that would have been in the Senate bill (as opposed to having the opportunity to pay taxes, which is what is in the Senate bill).

And I agree. I thought at this point, there would be some information leaked to us. Anything! I am hoping the 2 million was just a talking point (since that's a number Jorge Ramos suggested some estimates are) and not an actual figure being considered by the administration. I estimated in a another post that approximately 5 million people could benefit, including the parents of DACA beneficiaries, based on some 2012 numbers of undocumented immigrants.

However, I could see that number still including long term residents (non-DACA DREAMers), parents of USCs, parents of DACA beneficiaries, and spouses of USCs/LPRs who have been here for 10+ years (About 3.1 million). The vast majority of the undocumented population recent immigrated. As of 2012, " 62 percent of undocumented immigrants have been living in the United States for 10 years or longer."

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Wow didn't know that so many of us has been here that long. I like your thinking,but do you think people will want to pay back taxes for something that isn't permanent? What would be the cost of the application, this isn't going to be easy to impliment,USCIS isn't running any faster,with the flood of applicants I bet it will take them 2 years to get 100,000 approved.
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I don't see anything wrong about paying taxes for x amount of years. Even though we are undocumented, we still have to pay taxes. I would be more than happy if he adds this clause. I pay a lot of taxes. My parents paid over 40k in taxes last year. Its only fair to those that have always payed taxes.
I know we should be paying taxes,but I will bet a dollar too a dime,that a lot of us are not. See for the adults that have been working under someone's SSN ,how can they prove its them, Jobs that pay under the table don't want you to pay taxes,thus off the books. This is going to prove difficult for many to show proof...Also they estemated 1.8 million of us last I checked it was in the low to mid 600,000.00 all of which were not approved as of yet. and we are on renewals already. I see this as one big sham USCIS is going to drag there feet on approvals and we all know that nothing can be done once your app is submitted to get them on the ball. Even if Obama goes big I bet less than one million will be approved before he leaves office, And whatever USCIS's criteria uses ,will determine how fast an adult gets approved.
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11-12-2014, 07:18 PM
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I don't see anything wrong about paying taxes for x amount of years. Even though we are undocumented, we still have to pay taxes. I would be more than happy if he adds this clause. I pay a lot of taxes. My parents paid over 40k in taxes last year. Its only fair to those that have always payed taxes.
When you say "we still have to pay taxes"; are you referring to the deductions that are applied to every paycheck we get, or are you talking about actually filing a tax return?

See, a lot of undocumented people received an ITIN from when they were infants and their parents applied for it listing their children as dependents. Therefore, these people can file taxes that way easily. Some of us didn't get so lucky. I started working in January of 2003, like a lot of people, using a made up SSN and a different last name to somewhat protect my identity; and as much as i would like to pay those taxes, i can't really file them that way. I wonder if some people do or try to. I attempted to obtain an ITIN years ago and failed. I explained on another thread how the IRS sometimes thinks you're trying to obtain an ITIN for other purposes (open a bank account, get a driver's license, etc.) rather than to actually file taxes consistently on an annual basis. My lawyer told me it's not uncommon for the IRS to deny it to applicants, particularly to undocumented adults.

I didn't make all that much back then, but i make a very decent amount of money now and the deductions on my paychecks are brutal, but i'm obviously not complaining at all.

If they add a clause regarding taxes, i hope they at least give applicants the chance to pay back taxes. I will gladly pay whatever i may owe and more. That would be the least of my concerns!
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