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Clinton to call for a 'full and equal' path to citizenship in Nevada - Page 3

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this is a pretty glowing picture of hillary. the clintons will always do whats good for them politically . this is the same hillary that moved to new york just to run for the senate there and voted for the iraq war when it was politically risky to even raise a question about it. the same one that said she was opposed to drivers licenses for illegal immigrants.
It's evolution. Just 10 years ago, it would have been political suicide for any Democrat to say they supported gay marriage or legalization of weed as an agenda even though they actually did support it. If you don't support Hillary, who DO you support? You can't make up imaginary candidates. This is a real battle and we don't need fictional characters.
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Just take it all with a grain of salt. Btw, why isn't this site encrypted?? This is the least safe site and I'm getting off of it for good. Preaching to the choir and useless debates here.

Obviously, it's been hacked - have you seen the upcoming events calendar? kidssmile? Enthrustrealty.net?? ramptechin??

Good luck.
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Just take it all with a grain of salt. Btw, why isn't this site encrypted?? This is the least safe site and I'm getting off of it for good. Preaching to the choir and useless debates here.

Obviously, it's been hacked - have you seen the upcoming events calendar? kidssmile? Enthrustrealty.net?? ramptechin??

Good luck.
I haven't given the site any personal information but you're right...sometimes it's good to be around others in the same sinking rat ship though.
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you make it seem like Obamas Yes we can was solely focuses on an immigration reform.
Some seem to think the president's whole political career was all about immigration reform....lol
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Some seem to think the president's whole political career was all about immigration reform....lol
Don't promise something you can't keep. "We can pass Dream Act now and do CIR within 100 days". He forgot very quickly, hell immigration appeared exactly 0 times during his first inauguration speech. Every to do list of democrats - immigration always on the bottom.

Considering that the healthcare law essentially cost them the house, talk about squandered opportunities.

If they had wrote the Dream Act into the military bill back in 2010 instead of trying to amend it in we'd all be looking at filing for permanent residency right about now.
Also, don't ever forget that the only thing that we needed that night was for someone to say "Mr. President, I ask for the will of majority to be effective". Keeping order in that sinking circus was more important than our lives.
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which president has actually kept 100% of his promises?

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...ises/obameter/

Obama has kept 45% of his promises, promises that actually affect people who can vote and voted for him
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Don't promise something you can't keep. "We can pass Dream Act now and do CIR within 100 days". He forgot very quickly, hell immigration appeared exactly 0 times during his first inauguration speech. Every to do list of democrats - immigration always on the bottom.

Considering that the healthcare law essentially cost them the house, talk about squandered opportunities.

If they had wrote the Dream Act into the military bill back in 2010 instead of trying to amend it in we'd all be looking at filing for permanent residency right about now.
Also, don't ever forget that the only thing that we needed that night was for someone to say "Mr. President, I ask for the will of majority to be effective". Keeping order in that sinking circus was more important than our lives.
The Jury is still out on whether the healthcare reform was good or bad for the country, but Obama's mother Ann Dunham died of cancer and one of the President's motivations in passing healthcare reform was that someone who is battling cancer shouldn't have to be worried about how to pay for the treatments (which cost hundreds of thousands of dollars). For us, the #1 agenda is immigration but you can't fault an elected president for having his own agenda.
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I am still confused on why Obama could pass the immigration reform when he had the most majority???

THAT til this day... wondering and puzzling for me...

Obama, such an enigma..
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I am still confused on why Obama could pass the immigration reform when he had the most majority???

THAT til this day... wondering and puzzling for me...

Obama, such an enigma..
He wanted to pass the HCR. That was his main priority.

Also, there was The Great Recession with very high unemployment.
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I am still confused on why Obama could pass the immigration reform when he had the most majority???

THAT til this day... wondering and puzzling for me...

Obama, such an enigma..
It's puzzling because you're not opening your mind about it.

When Obama took office, he had a Democrat house and senate for 2 years. In two years, he really only could have passed one signature piece of legislature without coming across as being a monarch and not putting enough debate on the topic. He chose Healthcare reform because that's what he ran on and it affected the entire country vs. a special interest group - ie. us.

A lot of immigrants seem to have short term memory loss but there was a massive attempt by Republicans to discredit the healthcare reform - You had Palin calling them death panels, Obamacare was going to throw your grandmother off a cliff, mass abortions for everybody, and other nonsense. By the time the healthcare law was passed, the midterm elections had arrived and the Democrats barely kept the Senate and lost the House.

2 years was the window of opportunity. Since then, they couldn't do anything without the House stopping it and things kept getting worse politically.
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