Bernie 2016 (only in my dreams) - Page 3

It's really obvious here. It's like trump supporters who say trump isn't racist because Muslim ( Islam) isn't a race so you can't be racist against Muslims despite saying a lot of hateful stuff

So, what do you recommend?
Bernie is shit.
Hillary is shit (don't worry, she too has anti-immigrant skeletons in her closet if you dig deep enough, among and entire legion of other skeletons).
Republicans are shit (for starters they all want to get rid of DACA, even Rubio is going full Hitler just to have any shot at the nomination and that guy would take a horse cock up his ass if it gave him 1% greater approval rating).

If it wasn't for the fact democrats need Hispanic vote we'd all have our doors kicked down by ICE, and DACA would've never existed. Don't worry, none of them will ever pass CIR because the conservatives need a boogeyman and since they can't really use blacks or Jews anymore they go for the Mexicans, and liberals know that the moment Jerry Sanchez doesn't have to worry about his mother and older brother Juan getting deported he's free to focus on other issues where he might just vote for the republicans.

Republicans like to scare about democrats wanting to make more voters for themselves, but on average permanent residents take forever to naturalize (generally around 10 years or so, unless compelled to do so for other reasons, generally family sponsorship), not to mention the 10 year wait generally proposed before you can even get a green card anyways. Basically - you're more valuable as a leash to keep your friends and relatives as democrats than anything else, they'll toss you a vote every so often when it has 0 chances of passing only to pretend they give a shit. What, you think they voted for DA in the lame duck session for no reason? Even Michelle's fucking nutrition bill upstaged us. They had a 60 vote majority and could've bribed some moderate republicans to vote yes to counteract the democrats who'd vote no (and who luckily are all dead or no longer in office).

Few more lost elections and they might just give up because it's nigh-impossible to get citizen hispanics to get off their asses to the election booths, they could carry Texas if they did, but they don't. We'll lose our utility and they'd do nothing to stop deportations, they'll just let republicans do that.

If nothing else you made up my mind. This situation is simply hopeless the ship is sinking and I want off. I was offered a job in Florida doing shit completely unrelated to my degree (and please, don't kid yourself that college will get you anywhere anymore without someone to put their neck out for you), and I'll take it because my immigration bullshit needs fixing hardcore, and well, good luck to all of you.

You know what the difference between Bernie and Hillary is? Hillary is a politician beholden to her constituents, while Bernie operates on principle. This would usually work in Bernie's favor, but not when his "principle" is "Immigrants = lower wages/less jobs = hurts Americans". What's truly scary about Bernie is that he is the beginning of the point where liberal rhetoric turns anti-immigrant (example:http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...migration.html)

Hillary is beholden to the Hispanic/Asian votes, which means she is guaranteed to be pro-immigrant as a president - Because she follows political convenience, she will work for us. And enough about this bullshit idea that Democrats are just hanging the immigration reform in front of us without any intention to actually pass it. The sheer political capital involved in pushing for immigration reform + implications of capturing the Hispanic votes that are tired of immigration reform being in the backburner makes such analysis ridiculous. Hillary isn't going to get immigration reform passed (not with this congress or the one next) - but she will be compelled to actually take actions because of her second term.

Bernie? He's too principled, and his principle in this case is nativism. I get that you're tired of immigration reform failing again and again and being put in backburners. But that doesn't justify supporting someone who, at his core, is a nativist.

which is why trump is always bad for us he's Bernie ( principle ) and Hilary ( politician) combined for an anti immigration body of matter. Bernie entire political stance has always been more people coming to the USA lower wages and lower jobs for hard working Americans. How can people not see this ? Multiple interviews of him have confirmed it.


I honestly don't know what to think about Hilary considering her positions on everyday matters ( gay marriage, Nafta ect) seem to switch every so decades. Let's not forget it was her husband who made adjusting difficult (10 year ban anyone ?) sending black and Lationo to jail for small crimes.


At the end of the day this election will new to us because there really is only one person and that being Hilary who will ensure at least our stance here remains the same as Obama. Bernie? You guys really think he would sign something like DACA? You think he's ready to throw away the principles he used to win ( if he wins) to appeal 10 million illegal aliens like us and our parents?

I thought I read somewhere that Bernie was against illegals. Why the change now Bernie? Same bullshit as always. Need some extra votes? Let's talk immigration.

Whats funny about Bernie is that he won't say

"Illegal immigration is bad!!"

no he will say in a more educated smart way

"Allowing immigrants to come here jeopardizes the integrity of our morals because its decreasing the number of jobs that skilled americans can performed"

FYI

We're all Mr. Stockholm Syndrome because we're all submissive to America.