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Trump to rollback EO's 1st day of office says Pence - Page 3

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01-05-2017, 08:46 PM
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Are there any immigration executive order/action other than DACA? GOP keep mentioning "Immigration EO" which I assume means DACA since there are no other big immigration EO I can think of.
Where did they mention that? Not in this video did they? The other one was DAPA and we all know what happened to that at the court. GOP is actually very sympathetic towards groups of undocumented like farm workers and Dreamers like us.
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Are there any immigration executive order/action other than DACA? GOP keep mentioning "Immigration EO" which I assume means DACA since there are no other big immigration EO I can think of.
I would make the case that DACA, DAPA, and Extended DACA are 3 separate and distinct immigration EO's.
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This is going to be a VERY UGLY battle. Some Republicans are already defecting. Rand Paul didn't vote for the measure in Senate today because he says it would add to the national debt. It's not going to be repealed that easily. Trump has already indicated he wants parts of it to remain. Republicans have no replacement. But the law DOES have problems right now because the costs are just too high. I mean premiums are very high and deductibles are extremely high as well so for young people like you and me it basically makes no sense. One could say young people are paying for the subsidies and it would actually be better for one not to have health insurance and just pay the penalty. But the law has very good things about it as well and it did get 20+ million people insured! Republicans are just plain crazy. They are hell bent on getting rid of the entire law. That would create ultimate chaos. Even the health insurers don't want that!
I for one would like to see fair market pricing from providers & pharma and not just gouge insurance because some one has it.
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You guys really think Trump cares about what Pence says? He'll do whatever he wants with or without Pence's support.
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This is going to be a VERY UGLY battle. Some Republicans are already defecting. Rand Paul didn't vote for the measure in Senate today because he says it would add to the national debt. It's not going to be repealed that easily. Trump has already indicated he wants parts of it to remain. Republicans have no replacement. But the law DOES have problems right now because the costs are just too high. I mean premiums are very high and deductibles are extremely high as well so for young people like you and me it basically makes no sense. One could say young people are paying for the subsidies and it would actually be better for one not to have health insurance and just pay the penalty. But the law has very good things about it as well and it did get 20+ million people insured! Republicans are just plain crazy. They are hell bent on getting rid of the entire law. That would create ultimate chaos. Even the health insurers don't want that!
Does the 20 million figure include all the people covered by Medicaid expansion of certain states. The reason Obamacare failed is because private insurance companies set their premiums and not enough healthy people signed up to offset the sick. Now as more people sign up premiums are supposed to go down this year and insuraers are going to see profit. Republicans did not want to work with obama to help fix the massive law and it is an act of genius that it works as well as it does in its current state.
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Where did they mention that? Not in this video did they? The other one was DAPA and we all know what happened to that at the court. GOP is actually very sympathetic towards groups of undocumented like farm workers and Dreamers like us.
Not in this video. It's just a common phrase that I hear over and over again "repealing Obama's unconstitutional immigration EO".
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Not in this video. It's just a common phrase that I hear over and over again "repealing Obama's unconstitutional immigration EO".
There's more than 200 he passed. The ones trump has zeroed in on are the ones that stifle jobs and business so I guess the environmental and business regulation ones.
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There's more than 200 he passed. The ones trump has zeroed in on are the ones that stifle jobs and business so I guess the environmental and business regulation ones.
I'm referring to "Immigration EO" mentioned, not all EOs.
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Does the 20 million figure include all the people covered by Medicaid expansion of certain states. The reason Obamacare failed is because private insurance companies set their premiums and not enough healthy people signed up to offset the sick. Now as more people sign up premiums are supposed to go down this year and insuraers are going to see profit. Republicans did not want to work with obama to help fix the massive law and it is an act of genius that it works as well as it does in its current state.
Yes. It seems like a lot of individuals who got plans through the market place were "sicker" and "unhealthier" for the most part and thus result in more and more claims. Now what the Republicans are absolutely opposed to is the individual mandate. Trump recently said that he supports the part of the law that says you can't be denied due to pre-existing conditions. Now think about the last two things I just said. Now lets say they change the law and get rid of the mandate but keep the part that says insurers can't deny due to pre-existing condition. They would basically be discouraging healthy people to sign up (less revenues/premiums for insurance companies) at the same time insurance companies wouldn't be able to turn away unhealthy people with pre-existing conditions!! And you are spot on about the timing/cyclical nature of Obamacare. It has to be kept around and just changed rather than repeal the whole damn law. This is going to be Trump's entire first term on top of that they will be working with immigration, corporate tax reform, deregulation etc. How the hell will they find the time????
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SO in the video Pence says they will repeal Obama's executive orders, then use executive action to implement new policies. So basically their own EOs? how hypocritical is that lol
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