US immigrant stripped of 'dreamer' status in part over alleged gang tattoo - Page 3
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Originally Posted by Swim19
Lawyer, Laurel Scott had this interpretation:
I don't know if he is or isn't in a gang, but it's clear the government doesn't need a lot of evidence to strip someone of DACA based on the EO. |
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Originally Posted by JohannBernoulli1667
Agree! Harsh, but the reality is that Daniel is not a dreamer.
Dreamers pursue education, or build businesses and pursue the American dream. It sounds harsh but DACA should have at the very minimum a requirement of some education beyond high school, whether this is trade school, community college or Trump University is irrelevant. As much as I want to sympathize with Daniel. He does not represent us. I know it sounds harsh, but the dreamer movement is not about becoming a regular member of society. Dreamers do not cross their arms and conform, they do not act like gangsters, we do not do drugs or drive under the influence. That is not why we ask for relief from deportation. We ask for relief because we want to make a difference. We want to be business owners, educators, doctors, scientists, engineers etc... We shoot to work at the top of our game, we work overtime to be able to afford tuition. Sometimes I feel we all forget about our purpose, the dream. Yesterday I had a real good conversation with many of my fellow engineer dreamers, great people, different views. Daniel deserves to be deported. It was made very clear from the beginning that there would be no tolerance. The election was lost. There are consequences. I will not defend that guy. I feel bad for him, his family failed him, his community failed him. At the end of the day he made decisions that led him to be stripped from his DACA. Do I feel that ICE violated his rights of privacy etc... sure but it is not an excuse. With that said, Donald Trump today acknowledged him during the press conference. I am glad he was bold enough to say, the great majority of dreamers are good people. There are exceptions and he is right. I am not a Trump supporter but I agree with his statement. |
It's depressing how quick some dreamers here are willing to throw other immigrants under the bus.
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Originally Posted by JohannBernoulli1667
Agree! Harsh, but the reality is that Daniel is not a dreamer.
Dreamers pursue education, or build businesses and pursue the American dream. It sounds harsh but DACA should have at the very minimum a requirement of some education beyond high school, whether this is trade school, community college or Trump University is irrelevant. As much as I want to sympathize with Daniel. He does not represent us. I know it sounds harsh, but the dreamer movement is not about becoming a regular member of society. Dreamers do not cross their arms and conform, they do not act like gangsters, we do not do drugs or drive under the influence. That is not why we ask for relief from deportation. We ask for relief because we want to make a difference. We want to be business owners, educators, doctors, scientists, engineers etc... We shoot to work at the top of our game, we work overtime to be able to afford tuition. Sometimes I feel we all forget about our purpose, the dream. Yesterday I had a real good conversation with many of my fellow engineer dreamers, great people, different views. Daniel deserves to be deported. It was made very clear from the beginning that there would be no tolerance. The election was lost. There are consequences. I will not defend that guy. I feel bad for him, his family failed him, his community failed him. At the end of the day he made decisions that led him to be stripped from his DACA. Do I feel that ICE violated his rights of privacy etc... sure but it is not an excuse. With that said, Donald Trump today acknowledged him during the press conference. I am glad he was bold enough to say, the great majority of dreamers are good people. There are exceptions and he is right. I am not a Trump supporter but I agree with his statement. |
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Originally Posted by JohannBernoulli1667
Agree! Harsh, but the reality is that Daniel is not a dreamer.
Dreamers pursue education, or build businesses and pursue the American dream. It sounds harsh but DACA should have at the very minimum a requirement of some education beyond high school, whether this is trade school, community college or Trump University is irrelevant. As much as I want to sympathize with Daniel. He does not represent us. I know it sounds harsh, but the dreamer movement is not about becoming a regular member of society. Dreamers do not cross their arms and conform, they do not act like gangsters, we do not do drugs or drive under the influence. That is not why we ask for relief from deportation. We ask for relief because we want to make a difference. We want to be business owners, educators, doctors, scientists, engineers etc... We shoot to work at the top of our game, we work overtime to be able to afford tuition. Sometimes I feel we all forget about our purpose, the dream. Yesterday I had a real good conversation with many of my fellow engineer dreamers, great people, different views. Daniel deserves to be deported. It was made very clear from the beginning that there would be no tolerance. The election was lost. There are consequences. I will not defend that guy. I feel bad for him, his family failed him, his community failed him. At the end of the day he made decisions that led him to be stripped from his DACA. Do I feel that ICE violated his rights of privacy etc... sure but it is not an excuse. With that said, Donald Trump today acknowledged him during the press conference. I am glad he was bold enough to say, the great majority of dreamers are good people. There are exceptions and he is right. I am not a Trump supporter but I agree with his statement. |
Get off your high horse already.
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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith
I don't know but why would get a tattoo and hang with these people in the first place?
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It's depressing how quick some dreamers here are willing to throw other immigrants under the bus.
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Originally Posted by Got_Daca
Original Dream Act stipulated 2 years college/military. If you cant do any of that, sorry you are not a Dreamer.
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You know some people couldn't go to college straight outta high school, right? Like they actually had to support their families and didn't have the time or the money for college.
Please don't judge, its not right
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Originally Posted by Got_Daca
Original Dream Act stipulated 2 years college/military. If you cant do any of that, sorry you are not a Dreamer.
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I will admit to being surprised seeing the requirement of only HS education for DACA when it was first announced. Surprised only because the DREAM Act required 2-years of college/military at the very least.
But, now, if you're covered by DACA, you should be covered for any future permanent legalization.
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Why?
You know some people couldn't go to college straight outta high school, right? Like they actually had to support their families and didn't have the time or the money for college. Please don't judge, its not right |
But nowadays anyone can at least sign up for couple of classes at a comm. college.
There is no excuse.
If you can't do that and instead choose to hang out with gangbangers, sorry you're not a Dreamer. Should have thought of college instead of wasting your time with wankstas.
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