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Rauner to Sign Immigration Bill Amid Conservative Backlash - Page 3

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#21
08-28-2017, 12:59 PM
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Trump is going to destroy everything he can. He will do whatever he wants. He defended neo nazis, pardoned Arpaio, you think he won't end DACA? He doesn't give a rat's ass about political backlash as long as he still keeps his support from racists rednecks.
When did he defend neo-nazis? I thought he condemned those groups that advocated for white supremacy and also the other group that's a literal terrorist group and are communists.
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08-28-2017, 01:24 PM
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You guys keep saying his base but what exactly do you guys know about his base?


Majority of his base favor an immigration reform to legalize people here


http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank...ion-questions/


I can't find a backup but I am sure his base also support DACa to stay
How you figure that? He ran and won saying he'd get rid off DACA. And that link doesn't mention DACA or the DREAM Act at all.
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8 months into his administration with no major legislative win on his agenda, his staff crumbling, and the media laughs at him because there is still no wall, yet somehow we still think that DACA is this big bargaining chip? You can't keep on calling DACA a bargaining chip if we're 8 months into his administration and he's gotten nothing. We all know President Trump has 0 to very little patience and when he wants to act on something he will do it. Regardless of whatever type of backlash he will get.

The last couple of months, President Trump has gotten no benefits of keeping DACA. With the Democrats not budging on any compromise whatsoever, I'm confident he would have ended DACA a long time ago. DACA is here to stay. Yes it will end at some point, but those who already have it will be able to keep it while saying he ended the program in order to please his base.
there hasn't been an actual offer from the administration regarding daca being a compromise though. just speculation
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there hasn't been an actual offer from the administration regarding daca being a compromise though. just speculation
There was an offer but the Democrats and UWD shut the door on that.
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When did he defend neo-nazis? I thought he condemned those groups that advocated for white supremacy and also the other group that's a literal terrorist group and are communists.
When he said that there were "good people" marching within the white supremacists and neo-nazis.
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How you figure that? He ran and won saying he'd get rid off DACA. And that link doesn't mention DACA or the DREAM Act at all.


Did you even read the article? read it
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I feel that he will definitely end it only to create panic and chaos amongst the Democratic and those leaning left on this issue in the Republican party in order to show them that he is not playing when he says he wants the funds for his wall. Lets just see what happens the coming days...
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I feel that he will definitely end it only to create panic and chaos amongst the Democratic and those leaning left on this issue in the Republican party in order to show them that he is not playing when he says he wants the funds for his wall. Lets just see what happens the coming days...
I feel the same way. As long as DACA is active, Democrats will have no reason to compromise on the wall funding. Ending DACA would force them to act. Trump will not sign a standalone bill providing relief for Dreamers without funding for his wall.
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The democrats need to oppose the wall in exchange for dreamers to call trumps bluff.

If he forces a govt shutdown and vetos the appropriation bill that doesn't include wall funding, democrats go from there.
Then when they "begrudgingly" compromise, trump will feel like he won.

Imagine if Dems came out like "wall funding in exchange for DA, perfect! Yes trump"
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What if DA for the wall and our parents get a form of protection like DACA? Thats better
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