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Dick Durbin's statement on Succeed act - Page 3

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09-25-2017, 09:08 PM
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(a) VISA
WAIVER PROGRAM WAIVER OF RIGHTS
Section 217(b) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8
U.S.C. 1187(b)) is amended to read as follows:
‘‘(b) WAIVER OF R IGHTS
.—An alien may not be pro-
10 vided a waiver under the program unless the alien—
‘‘(1) has signed, under penalty of perjury, an
acknowledgment confirming that the alien has been
notified and understands that he or she will be ineli-
gible for any right to relief under sections 240B,
245, 248, and 249 (other than relief from removal
under section 241(b)(3)) and any relief not in effect
at the time such acknowledgment is signed, if the
alien fails to depart from the United States at the
end of the 90-day period for admission;
‘‘(2) has waived any right to review or appeal
under this Act of an immigration officer’s deter-
mination regarding the admissibility of the alien at
a port of entry into the United States; and
‘‘(3) has waived any right to contest, other than
on the basis of an application for asylum, any action
for removal of the alien.’’.

RIDICULOUS GUYS WTF, if your denied.. you go bye bye!
I don't think it means what you think it means. This section seems to be amending the current visa waiver program (see link below). They want to prevent visa overstays caused by people coming to the US on the visa waiver program (basically it allows citizens of certain countries to come to the US for 90 days or less without having to obtain a visa for tourism or business).

https://www.cbp.gov/travel/internati...-system-travel
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09-25-2017, 09:12 PM
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It's on page 12: https://www.lankford.senate.gov/imo/...SUCCEEDAct.pdf

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20 (B) ACKNOWLEDGMENT TO BARS TO RE-
21 LIEF.—
22 (i) ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF NOTIFICA-
23 TION.—The regulations issued pursuant to
24 subparagraph (A) shall include a require-
25 ment that each alien applying for condi-
12
MDM17B44 S.L.C.
1 tional permanent resident status under this
2 Act who is at least 18 years of age sign,
3 under penalty of perjury, an acknowledg-
4 ment confirming that the alien was notified
5 and understands that he or she will be in-
6 eligible for any form of relief or immigra-
7 tion benefit under this Act or other immi-
8 gration laws
other than withholding of re-
9 moval under section 241(b)(3), or relief
10 from removal based on a claim under the
11 Convention Against Torture and Other
12 Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment
13 or Punishment, done at New York, Decem-
14 ber 10, 1984, if the alien violates a term
15 for conditional permanent resident status
16 under this Act.
17 (ii) EXCEPTION.—Notwithstanding an
18 acknowledgment under clause (ii), the Sec-
19 retary may allow an alien who violated the
20 terms of conditional permanent resident
21 status (other than a criminal alien or an
22 alien deemed to be a national security or
23 public safety risk) to seek relief from re-
24 moval if the Secretary determines that
25 such relief is warranted for humanitarian
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MDM17B44 S.L.C.
1 purposes or if otherwise in the public inter-
2 est.
3 (iii) JUDICIAL REVIEW.—Notwith-
4 standing any other provision of law (statu-
5 tory or nonstatutory), including section
6 2241 of title 28, United States Code, any
7 other habeas corpus provision, and sections
8 1361 and 1651 of such title, no court shall
9 have jurisdiction to review a determination
10 by the Secretary under clause (iii).

Basically the Trump administration would have full rein over who stays and who doesn't and you can't contest in court because you waive your right to.
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So I think there is an age-cap:



https://www.lankford.senate.gov/imo/...SUCCEEDAct.pdf
Interesting with the lawful status part.... F/J/L visa holders are still out of luck
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Interesting with the lawful status part.... F/J/L visa holders are still out of luck
as it should be!
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damn, dont tell DACA-IR-DA that there is an age cap. lol

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something will pass though,

some sort of DREAM ACT/RAC ACT Hybrid - Border Security Bill.
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damn, dont tell DACA-IR-DA that there is an age cap. lol
This isn't going to pass... to much politricks on this one. They need to at least amend that portion.

Any Ted Cruz constitutional gurus here, would this portion even stand in court?

I believe that all people in the United States have a right to be represented in court...

So this does not apply to foreigners abroad, nor people at the border.
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this isnt the miracle bill some of you guys were preaching earlier about

(a) VISA
WAIVER PROGRAM WAIVER OF RIGHTS
Section 217(b) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8
U.S.C. 1187(b)) is amended to read as follows:
‘‘(b) WAIVER OF R IGHTS
.—An alien may not be pro-
10 vided a waiver under the program unless the alien—
‘‘(1) has signed, under penalty of perjury, an
acknowledgment confirming that the alien has been
notified and understands that he or she will be ineli-
gible for any right to relief under sections 240B,
245, 248, and 249 (other than relief from removal
under section 241(b)(3)) and any relief not in effect
at the time such acknowledgment is signed, if the
alien fails to depart from the United States at the
end of the 90-day period for admission;
‘‘(2) has waived any right to review or appeal
under this Act of an immigration officer’s deter-
mination regarding the admissibility of the alien at
a port of entry into the United States; and
‘‘(3) has waived any right to contest, other than
on the basis of an application for asylum, any action
for removal of the alien.’’.




we lose our right to see a judge, for any reason, we can lose our cpr and be deported, no need to see a judge, and we have to be fear for 10 long y ears
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It's on page 12: https://www.lankford.senate.gov/imo/...SUCCEEDAct.pdf



Basically the Trump administration would have full rein over who stays and who doesn't and you can't contest in court because you waive your right to.
This may be a relevant commentary: https://law.yale.edu/system/files/ar...ndLoathing.pdf
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some said its only for the VISA Waiver PROGRAM people, but i dont trust these GOP peeps, its ridiculous... if you made a clerical error, misrepresentation, or lacking RFE on your application, you could be put to expedited removal without representation. no 5th amendment rights! very sad!

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we lose our right to see a judge, for any reason, we can lose our cpr and be deported, no need to see a judge, and we have to be fear for 10 long y ears
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