Ice arrest 450 people in immigration raid - Page 3

dude subtract the 800k dreamers from the 11-13million.
those are the people in the shadows... lol

what do you mean by "really in the shadows"? so theres another layer of undocumented immigrants? what is this? this aint like the dark web or something.

so you're saying theres another 19 million undocumented immigrants living in the "really in the shadows" beyond the shadows that we lived in prior to DACA? damn thats some major inception shit. lol

30 million illegals? you crazy bro, thats like some Trump exaggeration he made during the campaign.

that's not carefully studied...
it even says in the box below it that it's based on survey data

11 million + the amount of people that don't identify themselves. you really think some of them are gonna be dumb enough to out themselves as undocumented.
i know some that were afraid to even do their taxes cause they were scared that it'd mean ice would have a target on them.

dude, its from the pew research center. what other methodologies do you suggest we use to study data?

yeah i'd agree with that 11 million + and some change
but i wouldnt claim that nearly 25-30million are undocumented.

that's like saying 3+ million illegals voted for Hillary.

the numbers don't add up.
there were 500k visa overstays that could be considered illegal added just in 2015 alone.
it's atleast 20 mil, because we don't actually have data not based on surveys or questionares, and the one we do have had the number at 11 mil. based on people that actually would agree to disclose that they're illegal.

Speculations...need facts. I agree with the 11 mil. I know plenty of people who self deported over the years.

it's all speculation...
you don't have facts either...
you're relying on random surveys and questionnaires to tell you how many people are here illegaly??
so it's been the same 11 mil since 2006?
somehow there has been more people self-deporting vs the number of illegals increasing??
how does that work, cause i sure as hell never saw it anywhere.

we can agree to disagree whether its facts or speculations.

but in this case its an estimate.

http://www.pewhispanic.org/2014/09/0...methodology-3/

Yeah what the helll

30 million...?

Lmao where do these numbers come from what is even your source. You're saying you know more than these people who specialize in these kinds of things? I am not going to believe some troll online over a carefully done study. Jesus Christ, and he's suppodly is a dreamer.


We are really against people whom really believe 3 million illegal aliens voted for Hillary