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McCarthy Says DACA Fix Unlikely Before End Of The Year - Page 3

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12-02-2017, 01:21 PM
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No pushing it back. At least 70 Republicans want this fixed by this December. Get this shit done lazy ass. You have had YEARS to do it the right way. If they push this back beyond this December, they will want mote border security concessions. At that point, what leverage will Democrats have?
We have heard this for years from both parties. No, Democrats will have to attach it to any funding stat.
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Actually, after reading through immigration programs and history, the situation is not technically unique. Presidents have been known to use their broad authority to grant discretion to individuals based on the unique circumstances at the time. Also, following Presidents have also been known to take away the very same discretion authorized if they were from a different party.

Still, on Congress, I am referencing back all the way to 2007 (which includes 2010). The Republican conference (both Senate and House) has used the same stalling tactics for the last 10 years on ALL pieces of legislation (from CIR to Dream Act) which tentatively authorizes the US government to forgive past unlawful presence. The same message has been given over the years if you look at what lawmakers have mentioned.

Imo, the biggest cruelty is to give a false hope when the evidence over many years have pointed in the opposite direction.
Can you give me an example of such status being taken away from almost a million people?
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Can you give me an example of such status being taken away from almost a million people?
They are ending TPS. It is estimated that US will lose $164 billion in GDP over a decade due to the loss of legal TPS workers, but that is not stopping anyone from ending their status. DACA and TPS are different things, but you get the point.
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pretty sure this country will deal with TPS, they gave them 18-24 months.

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They are ending TPS. It is estimated that US will lose $164 billion in GDP over a decade due to the loss of legal TPS workers, but that is not stopping anyone from ending their status. DACA and TPS are different things, but you get the point.
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pretty sure this country will deal with TPS, they gave them 18-24 months.
Well, if that's the argument than they dealt with DACA as well. They gave 6 months to 2 years for people to prepare to leave.

The point is Repubes don't care at all about economic impact or sympathy when it comes to immigration topics in general.
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they will deal with DACA this month.

the next Congress will deal with TPS 18-24 months from now.

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Well, if that's the argument than they dealt with DACA as well. They gave 6 months to 2 years for people to prepare to leave.

The point is Repubes don't care at all about economic impact or sympathy when it comes to immigration topics in general.
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They are ending TPS. It is estimated that US will lose $164 billion in GDP over a decade due to the loss of legal TPS workers, but that is not stopping anyone from ending their status. DACA and TPS are different things, but you get the point.
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Only thing we can do is remain positive or pack our shit.
I am actually positive that this month will yield something for us (or at least hoping). The point I was making is that Repubes don't care about our economic contributions, sympathy toward our case, or the fact that we are out of the shadows already. None of that matters to them. Dems (especially Durbin) and maybe me one or two Republicans want to help us, and that is the only reason we have a fighting chance.
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McCarthy is unlikely to be right
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I am actually positive that this month will yield something for us (or at least hoping). The point I was making is that Repubes don't care about our economic contributions, sympathy toward our case, or the fact that we are out of the shadows already. None of that matters to them. Dems (especially Durbin) and maybe me one or two Republicans want to help us, and that is the only reason we have a fighting chance.
Oh yea they don’t give a fuck. They never have.
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