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Congress kicking the can is now the Dreamers’ best hope - Page 3

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01-07-2018, 01:24 AM
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Bridge Act as a standalone measure would be acceptable - kick the can down until someone less limpdick takes it on.

Bridge Act + 9001 pages of enforcement is not, anyone that wants it is first and foremost selfish and second - a fucking idiot.
I agree, I have said that as well. There is no way he can get his permanent demands in exchange for something temporary for us.
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With so much uncertainty and no answers, it would be the right thing to let us renew at least one more time for those who didn’t get the chance to.
Certainty wise, unfortunately the outcome seems lean more on the negative side based on what we are hearing. For some reason, I felt maybe Dems will fight for us in December, but clearly it didn't happen. But yes, letting people renew one more time is a good idea. Most people's EAD expires in the August-October range. That's hundreds of thousands of people going out of jobs. It's just sad.

It's amazing that Trump has done absolutely nothing positive for this country, but he undid one of the best things that Obama did - give 800k young Americans a chance to live a more normal life with an opportunity at progress.
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The Bridge Act/DACA is not happening.
You seem so certain for no reason.

We will happily take Bridge Act if it means we remain protected for another three years. I can’t understand why any dreamer feels like they can turn down protection from deportation and being able to work freely.. even for a couple of week. Baffling.

Anyone who feels like they have a say and won’t take anything less than their own demands when we’re all about to begin losing protections by the boards can see themselves out or not apply for whatever manages to pass... if anything.
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No. Path to citizenship or bust. If I graduate in May with no permanent solution passed and signed, then it will be resoundingly clear that the United States has absolutely no interest in my life. I will leave and I will burn my current credit providers so bad as financial retaliation.

Human rights will be dead in the United States.
I heard of someone who did that. He took a 30-50k personal loan and left. A few years after leaving, he got cancer and had to spend all of it on treatment. He didn't survive and he suffered quite a bit. I am not superstitious, but it's kind of scary to think about Karma.
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Certainty wise, unfortunately the outcome seems lean more on the negative side based on what we are hearing. For some reason, I felt maybe Dems will fight for us in December, but clearly it didn't happen. But yes, letting people renew one more time is a good idea. Most people's EAD expires in the August-October range. That's hundreds of thousands of people going out of jobs. It's just sad.

It's amazing that Trump has done absolutely nothing positive for this country, but he undid one of the best things that Obama did - give 800k young Americans a chance to live a more normal life with an opportunity at progress.
You are ignoring on all the positive signs and just zoning in on the negative. When something passes you need to send me a 100 bucks lol.
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You seem so certain for no reason.

We will happily take Bridge Act if it means we remain protected for another three years. I can’t understand why any dreamer feels like they can turn down protection from deportation and being able to work freely.. even for a couple of week. Baffling.

Anyone who feels like they have a say and won’t take anything less than their own demands when we’re all about to begin losing protections by the boards can see themselves out or not apply for whatever manages to pass... if anything.

Who is "we"? The Dreamers? DACA recipients? I belong to both of those groups and I can assure you that I will not "happily take" the Bridge Act. I already said that I would not apply for the Bridge Act because I can't live my whole life with this much uncertainty. If you can't understand that feeling, then that's fine. But do not tell me how I'm supposed to feel or attempt to speak for me.

Also do you seriously get pleasure out of attacking me for an iota of optimism? This article and so many before them constantly tell me that I'm supposed to suspend my life in the United States for even longer because a group of racist politicians with hatred in their hearts who have never met me think I don't deserve happiness. I don't feel safe anywhere and I thought this forum was a place that could be a safe space for people like me.

Yes. I want a safe space. If any of you wanna call me a special snowflake because the world doesn't owe me anything, then fuck you. The rest of world has safe spaces. Why can't we? I don't want to feel like communicating my pain will always lead to responses of ridicule, hatred, condescending displays of sympathy, arrest, detention or hospitalization.

I can't demand life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness because of a situation I was put into without my consent or awareness. It seems like the world was not built for me. Too bad. So sad. There is no point. The message I have gotten is that I have absolutely no control over my life. Don't even try to convince me otherwise.
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I heard of someone who did that. He took a 30-50k personal loan and left. A few years after leaving, he got cancer and had to spend all of it on treatment. He didn't survive and he suffered quite a bit. I am not superstitious, but it's kind of scary to think about Karma.
I don't believe in karma or any form of religion or spirituality. They were created to socially control the masses.
Also people do worse things. Stealing $10,000 from Bank of America is not as bad as sexually assaulting a minor. The latter being a crime that Trump (allegedly) did. And now he is an unstoppable president. Plus I see it as the minimum reparation for the psychological trauma that the United States put me through. As for the cancer, it was random. Many people get cancer every year, including some of the best people.
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Lmao.

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yes. I want a safe space. If any of you wanna call me a special snowflake because the world doesn't owe me anything, then fuck you. The rest of world has safe spaces. Why can't we? I don't want to feel like communicating my pain will always lead to responses of ridicule, hatred, condescending displays of sympathy, arrest, detention or hospitalization.
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good god, stfu. did you really just say we have an unstoppable president? you just lost all credibility there. lol

yeah he's bad but there is still checks and balances in this country. America will still be America once Trump is dead and gone.

we are just a spoke on the wheel. stop fucking playing the victim.

lmaoo this guy is really bitching out and having a meltdown on the interwebs. get yourself together man.

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I don't believe in karma or any form of religion or spirituality. They were created to socially control the masses.
Also people do worse things. Stealing $10,000 from Bank of America is not as bad as sexually assaulting a minor. The latter being a crime that Trump (allegedly) did. And now he is an unstoppable president. Plus I see it as the minimum reparation for the psychological trauma that the United States put me through. As for the cancer, it was random. Many people get cancer every year, including some of the best people.
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I think we all just need to relax. Some people react differently than others when it comes to life situations and that’s ok, we’re all different.

Obviously emotions are at an all time high right now and we all just need to understand each other and relax. Personally I think we will be okay, we just need to keep pushing and fighting. But for those who are ready to pack and move, I would respect their own personal live decisions.
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